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Øystein You mentioned you have a 1200mm dome, what is the design depth, thickness? I had something like this in mind for my plans, may I ask where you got it? Helge Stavanger NO > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:26:01 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > From: skarholm@gmail.com > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Helge > > The dream is to finish it so I will keep hanging on to most of the > parts. I can update my wwb site www.ubat.no and put out pictures of > the parts. The pressure hull is spherical and 172cm Dia > > On 21 October 2010 22:15, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Øystein, > > > > The sub I had in mind was a relative small two man sub, although a bigger > > diesel electric does appeal, but I would emagine this would become way to > > expensive for a regular working man to realize. > > > > You say you have a pressure hull , domes and parts, are you going to finnish > > this project or? I could take it of your hands, if it is close to what I > > have in mind:) , (But right now I am finnishing up my house) So funding is > > scarse untill next year. do you have any pictures you could mail me > > regardless?? > > > >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:18:16 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > >> From: skarholm@gmail.com > >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > >> Helge > >> > >> I live just north from you, in Haugesund and I started on a project > >> some years back but time just didn't add up. I have a pressure hull, > >> two acrylic domes (600mm and 1200) electric motors and even an > >> elcectric car engine.....and a lot of thoughs about pros and cons on > >> different sub design. If you make a small two man sub you will either > >> rely on a surface vessel to tow you or launch you. If you make a > >> bigger sub, then you can transit independent ond so on, but the larger > >> vessel gets the larger the cost will be. And a large vessel is more > >> awcvard to manuver arund wrecks and cliffs then a small sub....but in > >> the large vessel you can spend the night :-) > >> > >> > >> Øystein > >> > >> On 21 October 2010 20:44, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > Hi, Sorry, no I dont know if there are restrictions on diving psubs in > >> > Norway. But I think that you can pretty mutch do what you like :) > >> > > >> > But salvaging from wrecks is complicated, wrecks younger than 100 years > >> > pretty mutch belong to the insurance companys and wrecks older than 100 > >> > years are protected by different laws, and they belong to the state, so > >> > Finders keepers do not apply here.. :( > >> > > >> > Hi Jens > >> > > >> > Yes I was quite suprised myself looking at the member list, most members > >> > were US and one from Bryne .. :) > >> > > >> > I think I have got a good perspective on the different aspects of design > >> > and how it all works together. although I am not in the game when cost > >> > and > >> > procurement taken into the acount. so in the future I will contact some > >> > different manufacturers regarding manufacturing of pressure hulls and > >> > viewports, and evaluate what kind of budget I need for the different > >> > designs. > >> > > >> > To Everyone: > >> > > >> > Are there someone out there that have got any quotes on pressure hulls > >> > and > >> > domes?`?? any info would me welcome. > >> > > >> > At the moment I am skimming through the Gemanche Lloyd spesification for > >> > submersibles I will publish it for everyone to see.. > >> > > >> > Helge N > >> > > >> > Stavanger NO > >> > GL Rules for classing submersibles, free to download at their website, > >> > but > >> > it is a needle in the heystack to find so I linked it from my computer. > >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8736419/GL%20Submersible.pdf > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > >> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400 > >> > From: vbra676539@aol.com > >> > > >> > I don't know about current laws, but Norway has a rich history of > >> > submersible ops due primarily to the fact that the day-to-day operation > >> > of > >> > manned vehicles was more or less perfected in the North Sea by Vickers > >> > and > >> > Intersub. We did a lot of work in Norwegian waters. A lot!!! Mind you, > >> > that > >> > pre-dates terrorism and other current concerns for governments and > >> > corporations alike. Perhaps Helge knows more specifically? > >> > Vance > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl> > >> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:13 pm > >> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > >> > > >> > Vance , Jens and Helge, > >> > > >> > Ja , dykke med ei sma u-bat i fint i Norge! > >> > > >> > It is one of the reasons that me and my family want to emigrate from the > >> > Netherlands to Norway. The other reason it that it is sooo dense > >> > populated > >> > here.. > >> > > >> > Are there any restrictive regulations about psubs there or do you have > >> > other > >> > info.?? > >> > > >> > Groet, Emile > >> > > >> > As you could read, I started to learn Norwegian > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens vbra676539@aol.com > >> > Verzonden: donderdag 21 oktober 2010 17:53 > >> > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > >> > > >> > Helge, > >> > > >> > We spent a lot of time between Dusavik and Stavanger and up to Bergen. I > >> > did > >> > all my original pilot's training up there, for instance, including some > >> > really good diving out near Haugesand near the old whaling anchorages. > >> > If > >> > you ever get to the Haugesand museum, note the old chains and anchors > >> > used > >> > for the border of the parking lot. We salvaged and donated all that one > >> > winter. Even found some extensive deep-water coral beds that the > >> > research > >> > group from the Bergen aquarium didn't know anything about. We also did > >> > ABS > >> > proof-testing on PC-8 out there, 260 meters of water within a stone's > >> > throw > >> > of town up near Bergen. A psub up there would be great fun. Lots of > >> > really > >> > interesting diving very close to shore. Protected water. Great history. > >> > And > >> > then there were the girls in Stavanger. And Bergen. But that's another > >> > story. > >> > > >> > Vance > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> > >> > To: PSubs <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > >> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 10:33 am > >> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > >> > Hi Emile > >> > > >> > I dont have a defined scope just yet. I am mainly researching the > >> > tecnologies available and what kind of options there are. > >> > > >> > But a to be able to dive 200m would be great. A small two man sub will > >> > probably be what I can afford. ;) > >> > > >> > Helge N > >> > > >> > Stavanger Norway > >> > > >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:24 +0200 > >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > >> >> From: emile@airesearch.nl > >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> >> > >> >> Hei, > >> >> > >> >> It is not only the smell but the hydrocarbons in the steel can cause > >> >> bad > >> >> welds. > >> >> > >> >> Hvilken dybde vil du dykke i din plass?? > >> >> > >> >> med vennlig Hilsen, Emile > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hehe, jah, stemme det Jens :) > >> >> > > >> >> > Tipset kom liga fra Hundvåg. > >> >> > > >> >> > Driver og undersøker litt hva som skal til for og bygge seg en liten > >> >> > ubåt. > >> >> > > >> >> > Helge > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:57:33 +0200 > >> >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > >> >> >> From: laland@artematrix.org > >> >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Helge > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks for the tip, or... > >> >> >> komme tipse liga fra Hundvåg? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> mvh, > >> >> >> Jens Laland > >> >> >> Bryne > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ** if you cant get it out with soap and water you could give the > >> >> >> ** tank a paint job?... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> >> The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal > >> >> >> CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. 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