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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
Helge
The dream is to finish it so I will keep hanging on to most of the
parts. I can update my wwb site www.ubat.no and put out pictures of
the parts. The pressure hull is spherical and 172cm Dia
On 21 October 2010 22:15, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Øystein,
>
> The sub I had in mind was a relative small two man sub, although a bigger
> diesel electric does appeal, but I would emagine this would become way to
> expensive for a regular working man to realize.
>
> You say you have a pressure hull , domes and parts, are you going to finnish
> this project or? I could take it of your hands, if it is close to what I
> have in mind:) , (But right now I am finnishing up my house) So funding is
> scarse untill next year. do you have any pictures you could mail me
> regardless??
>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:18:16 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> From: skarholm@gmail.com
>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>
>> Helge
>>
>> I live just north from you, in Haugesund and I started on a project
>> some years back but time just didn't add up. I have a pressure hull,
>> two acrylic domes (600mm and 1200) electric motors and even an
>> elcectric car engine.....and a lot of thoughs about pros and cons on
>> different sub design. If you make a small two man sub you will either
>> rely on a surface vessel to tow you or launch you. If you make a
>> bigger sub, then you can transit independent ond so on, but the larger
>> vessel gets the larger the cost will be. And a large vessel is more
>> awcvard to manuver arund wrecks and cliffs then a small sub....but in
>> the large vessel you can spend the night :-)
>>
>>
>> Øystein
>>
>> On 21 October 2010 20:44, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi, Sorry, no I dont know if there are restrictions on diving psubs in
>> > Norway. But I think that you can pretty mutch do what you like :)
>> >
>> > But salvaging from wrecks is complicated, wrecks younger than 100 years
>> > pretty mutch belong to the insurance companys and wrecks older than 100
>> > years are protected by different laws, and they belong to the state, so
>> > Finders keepers do not apply here.. :(
>> >
>> > Hi Jens
>> >
>> > Yes I was quite suprised myself looking at the member list, most members
>> > were US and one from Bryne .. :)
>> >
>> > I think I have got a good perspective on the different aspects of design
>> > and how it all works together. although I am not in the game when cost
>> > and
>> > procurement taken into the acount. so in the future I will contact some
>> > different manufacturers regarding manufacturing of pressure hulls and
>> > viewports, and evaluate what kind of budget I need for the different
>> > designs.
>> >
>> > To Everyone:
>> >
>> > Are there someone out there that have got any quotes on pressure hulls
>> > and
>> > domes?`?? any info would me welcome.
>> >
>> > At the moment I am skimming through the Gemanche Lloyd spesification for
>> > submersibles I will publish it for everyone to see..
>> >
>> > Helge N
>> >
>> > Stavanger NO
>> > GL Rules for classing submersibles, free to download at their website,
>> > but
>> > it is a needle in the heystack to find so I linked it from my computer.
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8736419/GL%20Submersible.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400
>> > From: vbra676539@aol.com
>> >
>> > I don't know about current laws, but Norway has a rich history of
>> > submersible ops due primarily to the fact that the day-to-day operation
>> > of
>> > manned vehicles was more or less perfected in the North Sea by Vickers
>> > and
>> > Intersub. We did a lot of work in Norwegian waters. A lot!!! Mind you,
>> > that
>> > pre-dates terrorism and other current concerns for governments and
>> > corporations alike. Perhaps Helge knows more specifically?
>> > Vance
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
>> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:13 pm
>> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >
>> > Vance , Jens and Helge,
>> >
>> > Ja , dykke med ei sma u-bat i fint i Norge!
>> >
>> > It is one of the reasons that me and my family want to emigrate from the
>> > Netherlands to Norway. The other reason it that it is sooo dense
>> > populated
>> > here..
>> >
>> > Are there any restrictive regulations about psubs there or do you have
>> > other
>> > info.??
>> >
>> > Groet, Emile
>> >
>> > As you could read, I started to learn Norwegian
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens vbra676539@aol.com
>> > Verzonden: donderdag 21 oktober 2010 17:53
>> > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >
>> > Helge,
>> >
>> > We spent a lot of time between Dusavik and Stavanger and up to Bergen. I
>> > did
>> > all my original pilot's training up there, for instance, including some
>> > really good diving out near Haugesand near the old whaling anchorages.
>> > If
>> > you ever get to the Haugesand museum, note the old chains and anchors
>> > used
>> > for the border of the parking lot. We salvaged and donated all that one
>> > winter. Even found some extensive deep-water coral beds that the
>> > research
>> > group from the Bergen aquarium didn't know anything about. We also did
>> > ABS
>> > proof-testing on PC-8 out there, 260 meters of water within a stone's
>> > throw
>> > of town up near Bergen. A psub up there would be great fun. Lots of
>> > really
>> > interesting diving very close to shore. Protected water. Great history.
>> > And
>> > then there were the girls in Stavanger. And Bergen. But that's another
>> > story.
>> >
>> > Vance
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com>
>> > To: PSubs <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 10:33 am
>> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> > Hi Emile
>> >
>> > I dont have a defined scope just yet. I am mainly researching the
>> > tecnologies available and what kind of options there are.
>> >
>> > But a to be able to dive 200m would be great. A small two man sub will
>> > probably be what I can afford. ;)
>> >
>> > Helge N
>> >
>> > Stavanger Norway
>> >
>> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:24 +0200
>> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> >> From: emile@airesearch.nl
>> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >>
>> >> Hei,
>> >>
>> >> It is not only the smell but the hydrocarbons in the steel can cause
>> >> bad
>> >> welds.
>> >>
>> >> Hvilken dybde vil du dykke i din plass??
>> >>
>> >> med vennlig Hilsen, Emile
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hehe, jah, stemme det Jens :)
>> >> >
>> >> > Tipset kom liga fra Hundvåg.
>> >> >
>> >> > Driver og undersøker litt hva som skal til for og bygge seg en liten
>> >> > ubåt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Helge
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:57:33 +0200
>> >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> >> >> From: laland@artematrix.org
>> >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Helge
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the tip, or...
>> >> >> komme tipse liga fra Hundvåg?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> mvh,
>> >> >> Jens Laland
>> >> >> Bryne
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ** if you cant get it out with soap and water you could give the
>> >> >> ** tank a paint job?...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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