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Hi Øystein, The sub I had in mind was a relative small two man sub, although a bigger diesel electric does appeal, but I would emagine this would become way to expensive for a regular working man to realize. You say you have a pressure hull , domes and parts, are you going to finnish this project or? I could take it of your hands, if it is close to what I have in mind:) , (But right now I am finnishing up my house) So funding is scarse untill next year. do you have any pictures you could mail me regardless?? > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:18:16 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > From: skarholm@gmail.com > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Helge > > I live just north from you, in Haugesund and I started on a project > some years back but time just didn't add up. I have a pressure hull, > two acrylic domes (600mm and 1200) electric motors and even an > elcectric car engine.....and a lot of thoughs about pros and cons on > different sub design. If you make a small two man sub you will either > rely on a surface vessel to tow you or launch you. If you make a > bigger sub, then you can transit independent ond so on, but the larger > vessel gets the larger the cost will be. And a large vessel is more > awcvard to manuver arund wrecks and cliffs then a small sub....but in > the large vessel you can spend the night :-) > > > Øystein > > On 21 October 2010 20:44, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, Sorry, no I dont know if there are restrictions on diving psubs in > > Norway. But I think that you can pretty mutch do what you like :) > > > > But salvaging from wrecks is complicated, wrecks younger than 100 years > > pretty mutch belong to the insurance companys and wrecks older than 100 > > years are protected by different laws, and they belong to the state, so > > Finders keepers do not apply here.. :( > > > > Hi Jens > > > > Yes I was quite suprised myself looking at the member list, most members > > were US and one from Bryne .. :) > > > > I think I have got a good perspective on the different aspects of design > > and how it all works together. although I am not in the game when cost and > > procurement taken into the acount. so in the future I will contact some > > different manufacturers regarding manufacturing of pressure hulls and > > viewports, and evaluate what kind of budget I need for the different > > designs. > > > > To Everyone: > > > > Are there someone out there that have got any quotes on pressure hulls and > > domes?`?? any info would me welcome. > > > > At the moment I am skimming through the Gemanche Lloyd spesification for > > submersibles I will publish it for everyone to see.. > > > > Helge N > > > > Stavanger NO > > GL Rules for classing submersibles, free to download at their website, but > > it is a needle in the heystack to find so I linked it from my computer. > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8736419/GL%20Submersible.pdf > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400 > > From: vbra676539@aol.com > > > > I don't know about current laws, but Norway has a rich history of > > submersible ops due primarily to the fact that the day-to-day operation of > > manned vehicles was more or less perfected in the North Sea by Vickers and > > Intersub. We did a lot of work in Norwegian waters. A lot!!! Mind you, that > > pre-dates terrorism and other current concerns for governments and > > corporations alike. Perhaps Helge knows more specifically? > > Vance > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl> > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:13 pm > > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > > > > Vance , Jens and Helge, > > > > Ja , dykke med ei sma u-bat i fint i Norge! > > > > It is one of the reasons that me and my family want to emigrate from the > > Netherlands to Norway. The other reason it that it is sooo dense populated > > here.. > > > > Are there any restrictive regulations about psubs there or do you have other > > info.?? > > > > Groet, Emile > > > > As you could read, I started to learn Norwegian > > > > ________________________________ > > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens vbra676539@aol.com > > Verzonden: donderdag 21 oktober 2010 17:53 > > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving > > > > Helge, > > > > We spent a lot of time between Dusavik and Stavanger and up to Bergen. I did > > all my original pilot's training up there, for instance, including some > > really good diving out near Haugesand near the old whaling anchorages. If > > you ever get to the Haugesand museum, note the old chains and anchors used > > for the border of the parking lot. We salvaged and donated all that one > > winter. Even found some extensive deep-water coral beds that the research > > group from the Bergen aquarium didn't know anything about. We also did ABS > > proof-testing on PC-8 out there, 260 meters of water within a stone's throw > > of town up near Bergen. A psub up there would be great fun. Lots of really > > interesting diving very close to shore. Protected water. Great history. And > > then there were the girls in Stavanger. And Bergen. But that's another > > story. > > > > Vance > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> > > To: PSubs <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 10:33 am > > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > > Hi Emile > > > > I dont have a defined scope just yet. I am mainly researching the > > tecnologies available and what kind of options there are. > > > > But a to be able to dive 200m would be great. A small two man sub will > > probably be what I can afford. ;) > > > > Helge N > > > > Stavanger Norway > > > >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:24 +0200 > >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > >> From: emile@airesearch.nl > >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> > >> Hei, > >> > >> It is not only the smell but the hydrocarbons in the steel can cause bad > >> welds. > >> > >> Hvilken dybde vil du dykke i din plass?? > >> > >> med vennlig Hilsen, Emile > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hehe, jah, stemme det Jens :) > >> > > >> > Tipset kom liga fra Hundvåg. > >> > > >> > Driver og undersøker litt hva som skal til for og bygge seg en liten > >> > ubåt. > >> > > >> > Helge > >> > > >> > > >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:57:33 +0200 > >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank? > >> >> From: laland@artematrix.org > >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > >> >> > >> >> Helge > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for the tip, or... > >> >> komme tipse liga fra Hundvåg? > >> >> > >> >> mvh, > >> >> Jens Laland > >> >> Bryne > >> >> > >> >> ** if you cant get it out with soap and water you could give the > >> >> ** tank a paint job?... > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> > >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> > >> >> ************************************************************************ > >> >> The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal > >> >> CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. 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