Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving

[Øystein Skarholm <skarholm@gmail.com>]

Helge we could also keep in contact about our "projects" it would fun
to have submarine chat.
My mail adress is skarholm@gmail.com

On 21 October 2010 22:37, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Øystein,
>
> To finnish it would be the best, then we could do a multisub dive in the
> future :D
>
> Will be looking in to your website soon to "inspect" :)
>
> Helge
>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:26:01 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> From: skarholm@gmail.com
>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>
>> Helge
>>
>> The dream is to finish it so I will keep hanging on to most of the
>> parts. I can update my wwb site www.ubat.no and put out pictures of
>> the parts. The pressure hull is spherical and 172cm Dia
>>
>> On 21 October 2010 22:15, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Øystein,
>> >
>> > The sub I had in mind was a relative small two man sub,  although a
>> > bigger
>> > diesel electric does appeal, but I would emagine this would become way
>> > to
>> > expensive for a regular working man to realize.
>> >
>> > You say you have a pressure hull , domes and parts, are you going to
>> > finnish
>> > this project or? I could take it of your hands, if it is close to what I
>> > have in mind:) , (But right now I am finnishing up my house) So funding
>> > is
>> > scarse untill next year. do you have any pictures you could mail me
>> > regardless??
>> >
>> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:18:16 +0200
>> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >> From: skarholm@gmail.com
>> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >>
>> >> Helge
>> >>
>> >> I live just north from you, in Haugesund and I started on a project
>> >> some years back but time just didn't add up. I have a pressure hull,
>> >> two acrylic domes (600mm and 1200) electric motors and even an
>> >> elcectric car engine.....and a lot of thoughs about pros and cons on
>> >> different sub design. If you make a small two man sub you will either
>> >> rely on a surface vessel to tow you or launch you. If you make a
>> >> bigger sub, then you can transit independent ond so on, but the larger
>> >> vessel gets the larger the cost will be. And a large vessel is more
>> >> awcvard to manuver arund wrecks and cliffs then a small sub....but in
>> >> the large vessel you can spend the night :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Øystein
>> >>
>> >> On 21 October 2010 20:44, Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi, Sorry, no I dont know if there are restrictions on diving psubs
>> >> > in
>> >> > Norway. But I think that you can pretty mutch do what you like :)
>> >> >
>> >> > But salvaging from wrecks is complicated, wrecks younger than 100
>> >> > years
>> >> > pretty mutch belong to the insurance companys and wrecks older than
>> >> > 100
>> >> > years are protected by different laws, and they belong to the state,
>> >> > so
>> >> > Finders keepers do not apply here.. :(
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Jens
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes I was quite suprised myself looking at the member list, most
>> >> > members
>> >> > were US and one from Bryne .. :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I think I have got a good perspective on the different aspects of
>> >> > design
>> >> > and how it all works together. although I am not in the game when
>> >> > cost
>> >> > and
>> >> > procurement taken into the acount. so in the future I will contact
>> >> > some
>> >> > different manufacturers regarding manufacturing of pressure hulls and
>> >> > viewports, and evaluate what kind of budget I need for the different
>> >> > designs.
>> >> >
>> >> > To Everyone:
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there someone out there that have got any quotes on pressure
>> >> > hulls
>> >> > and
>> >> > domes?`?? any info would me welcome.
>> >> >
>> >> > At the moment I am skimming through the Gemanche Lloyd spesification
>> >> > for
>> >> > submersibles I will publish it for everyone to see..
>> >> >
>> >> > Helge N
>> >> >
>> >> > Stavanger NO
>> >> > GL Rules for classing submersibles, free to download at their
>> >> > website,
>> >> > but
>> >> > it is a needle in the heystack to find so I linked it from my
>> >> > computer.
>> >> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8736419/GL%20Submersible.pdf
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >> > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:26:56 -0400
>> >> > From: vbra676539@aol.com
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know about current laws, but Norway has a rich history of
>> >> > submersible ops due primarily to the fact that the day-to-day
>> >> > operation
>> >> > of
>> >> > manned vehicles was more or less perfected in the North Sea by
>> >> > Vickers
>> >> > and
>> >> > Intersub. We did a lot of work in Norwegian waters. A lot!!! Mind
>> >> > you,
>> >> > that
>> >> > pre-dates terrorism and other current concerns for governments and
>> >> > corporations alike. Perhaps Helge knows more specifically?
>> >> > Vance
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
>> >> > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 1:13 pm
>> >> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >> >
>> >> > Vance , Jens and Helge,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ja , dykke med ei sma u-bat i fint i Norge!
>> >> >
>> >> > It is one of the reasons that me and my family want to emigrate from
>> >> > the
>> >> > Netherlands to Norway.  The other reason it that it is sooo dense
>> >> > populated
>> >> > here..
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any restrictive regulations about psubs there or do you
>> >> > have
>> >> > other
>> >> > info.??
>> >> >
>> >> > Groet, Emile
>> >> >
>> >> > As you could read, I started to learn Norwegian
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens
>> >> > vbra676539@aol.com
>> >> > Verzonden: donderdag 21 oktober 2010 17:53
>> >> > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> > Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Norway diving
>> >> >
>> >> > Helge,
>> >> >
>> >> > We spent a lot of time between Dusavik and Stavanger and up to
>> >> > Bergen. I
>> >> > did
>> >> > all my original pilot's training up there, for instance, including
>> >> > some
>> >> > really good diving out near Haugesand near the old whaling
>> >> > anchorages.
>> >> > If
>> >> > you ever get to the Haugesand museum, note the old chains and anchors
>> >> > used
>> >> > for the border of the parking lot. We salvaged and donated all that
>> >> > one
>> >> > winter. Even found some extensive deep-water coral beds that the
>> >> > research
>> >> > group from the Bergen aquarium didn't know anything about. We also
>> >> > did
>> >> > ABS
>> >> > proof-testing on PC-8 out there, 260 meters of water within a stone's
>> >> > throw
>> >> > of town up near Bergen. A psub up there would be great fun. Lots of
>> >> > really
>> >> > interesting diving very close to shore. Protected water. Great
>> >> > history.
>> >> > And
>> >> > then there were the girls in Stavanger. And Bergen. But that's
>> >> > another
>> >> > story.
>> >> >
>> >> > Vance
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Helge Nødland <laptop2400@hotmail.com>
>> >> > To: PSubs <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>> >> > Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 10:33 am
>> >> > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> >> > Hi Emile
>> >> >
>> >> > I dont have a defined scope just yet. I am mainly researching the
>> >> > tecnologies available and what kind of options there are.
>> >> >
>> >> > But a to be able to dive 200m would be great. A small two man
>> >> > sub will
>> >> > probably be what I can afford. ;)
>> >> >
>> >> > Helge N
>> >> >
>> >> > Stavanger Norway
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:24 +0200
>> >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> >> >> From: emile@airesearch.nl
>> >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hei,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is not only the smell but the hydrocarbons in the steel can cause
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> welds.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hvilken dybde vil du dykke i din plass??
>> >> >>
>> >> >> med vennlig Hilsen, Emile
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hehe, jah, stemme det Jens :)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tipset kom liga fra Hundvåg.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Driver og undersøker litt hva som skal til for og bygge seg en
>> >> >> > liten
>> >> >> > ubåt.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Helge
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:57:33 +0200
>> >> >> >> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] the smell inside a propane tank?
>> >> >> >> From: laland@artematrix.org
>> >> >> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Helge
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for the tip, or...
>> >> >> >> komme tipse liga fra Hundvåg?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> mvh,
>> >> >> >> Jens Laland
>> >> >> >> Bryne
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ** if you cant get it out with soap and water you could give the
>> >> >> >> ** tank a paint job?...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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