Re: One last time

[protek@shreve.net]

Paolo,
   I am really at a loss as to exactly what I did to get such a public hate
response out of you on this forum.  I am not doubting Phil's credentials,
and they are certainly impressive.  That does not mean that I automatically
have to agree with him on every issue.  There are many people that I
respect that I do not always agree with.  If I respect someone's opinion it
hurts me if they criticise me in some area.  If I have no respect for them
at all, or their opinion then it does not have much effect.
   I told Phil in the note that I apologized for being tacky.  And I am
truly sorry for anything that I said to him that was uncalled for.  I
stated a response that I felt was neither out of line nor insulting.
Nothing was said to get back or put down.  I really thought it was a simple
statement and discussion of a difference of opinion.  If anything sounded
like I was out of line, then I can assure you and everyone else that it was
not my intention at all.
   I do not understand why you feel it necessary to disect every word I
said and turn it back on me.  But sir, your flaming me so severly over the
last note I sent was totally uncalled for.  It is sad that you let yourself
get so out of control with your insults.  I am afraid that you did not
accomplish what you set out to accomplish.  I am not angry about it and it
also does not hurt my feelings.  To understand why not, re-read paragraph #1.

Gary Boucher



At 09:20 PM 3/3/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Gary, nothing personal but...
>
>protek@shreve.net wrote:
>
>>   [snip]  As I mentioned, I teach at the university level.  I am at the
top of
>>
>> the faculty when it comes to teaching evaluations.  I have a pretty
>> good understanding of people, their abilities and weaknesses, and
>> the learning process in general.  All of this sets the stage for
>> restatement of my original point.
>>     There is a wide range of talents and abilities on psubs.  I am
>> certainly not the final authority on anything here.  But there is also a
>> group of people that dream of owning and operating their own sub
>> someday.  Many of these people are far far from having the
>> knowledge to do so with safety.  I was once in that group myself.  I
>> seriously question that (all) of those people in that group can go on
>> to build a safe submersible. I also believe that some can.[snip]
>
>I think one problem is due to the "very high" consideration you give to
yourself
>and to your role. I'm not going to discuss your professional reliability
(or is
>it authoritativity?) at the University, but here you've a totally different
>scenary and your professional attitude is not requested or even opportune.
>
>>  [snip]   If you really knew me, you would not question my willingness to
>> venture into areas that have not been well trod by the multitudes,
>> such as unusual materials, designs, or methods.  [snip]
>
>Whow... here you ask to not be judget if not better known...or you would be
>misjudged... Don't you think it's the same anybody else could say for
himself?
>
>> I have never thought of sub design as any form of "Holy Grail" as you
>> mentioned
>> in a previous post.  There is nothing mysterious, or black magic-like
>> about it.  But these people are not ready to build a "Deep Flight".  I
>> personally would not want them to try some of the psubs suggested
>> materials and practices.[snip]
>
>Again, you really need to judge everybody else attitude.. and this is wrong.
>
>>
>>    [snip] You apparently have many years of experience in material science.
>> They don't.  [snip]
>
>"Apparently" ???  Sir... here you tell us you're "at the top of the faculty "
>(and we're asked to trust in your words) and you still use a dubitative
form on
>the real facts. Here I can only see one real thing, Mr. Phil Nuytten already
>proved to the world his own expertise in underwater world exploration. He was
>the founder of several world famous companies, designed, tested, patented,
built
>and sold - worldwide - an incredible amount of innovations which really
changed
>the face to the Off-shore and Underwater exploration. He's still leading and
>innovating the same world, his last creature the Exosuit is closer to the
space
>tools than to the human things, and he also significantly contribuited to the
>space technology.
>What about you? Did you do anything worth of consideration out of your
spasmodic
>need to judge the world?
>
>And - finally - even on this "last time" letter, you're still missing the
point.
>It's not the material, it's the design. If your design is a poor one, it
doesn't
>care if you build it using the best still or the most exotic composites,
it'll
>fail because you didn't understand the way it works.
>
>Please, move one step down the stage and start being more cooperative and
>helpful. If you learned something about this world, the group will be more
than
>happy to learn from your experiences, but there's no reason to be judged and
>evaluated by you.
>
>Again, I apologize for my English writing.
>
>Deep blues
>
>Paolo
>
>
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