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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating



Roger that and with the motor controllers we can turn the shafts 1 revolution per minute so they will almost never be spinning 2900 RPM, again thanks for the info  

 

Brian V. Ryder

brian@subatlantic.com

 

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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:52 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating

 

HBOI used o-rings for many years on slow turning shafts. The trick is to keep a sharp eye out and have replacements ready.

Vance

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian V. Ryder <brian@subatlantic.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 11:03 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating

Vance I am not sure if there was any problems with the unit as built, when I disassembled the I found 2 that had leaked at one point and the bearings where gone the other 3 seemed to be ok, I have replaced all the o rings and new bearings, the shaft seals are just 2 o rings and the shaft seems to be in good shape, maybe I will do a vacuum test before making the discussion to go compensated we are shooting for the end of the week to splash it for the first time, thanks for the info

 

Brian V. Ryder

 

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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:50 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating

 

I got your vast knowledge bank, buddy.

 

As to bellows, it depends on the configuration. Truthfully, if the hard cans are in good shape, I'd replace the seals and O-rings and run them as designed. The problem with big or biggish motors is turbulence. There will be a lot of drag in there. The only solution is to cast the rotor in thin epoxy and machine it to the windings.

 

The question is why.

 

If what you have works, why fix it? Hyco ran compensated motors because they started out deep and worked backwards. But they started out with wet designs and got them nearly bullet proof over the years. Perry, on the other hand, built hard cans and ran their motors dry. They started shallow and went deeper, so could expand on what they had.

 

Is there a nasty history with those units you have?

 

Vance

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian V. Ryder <brian@subatlantic.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 6:29 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating

Vance Thank you for the info, I was going to make a simple bellow with that vinyl tubing, or that was my first thought then if there was a leak I could see it in the tubing

At least the sea water will not ruin the motor if its full of oil or less chance of it, do you have any ideas for bellows in that vast knowledge bank of yours,

 

Thanks again

Brian V. Ryder

 

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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:02 PM
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What if you flood a thruster? Sea water will migrate to find the lowest point(s). I'd do them separate. In my experience, that isolates problems without causing any.

Vance

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating

Brian,
 
Together okay, but make the bellow not too small. Count for 5 to 10% volume
chance.
 
Emile
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Brian V. Ryder
Verzonden: zondag 23 mei 2010 3:33
Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Onderwerp: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating
 
And yet again one more question oil filled should I plum them all together
and put a small bellow so there also pressure compensated? These are all
questions running thru my head 
 
Brian V. Ryder
brian@subatlantic.com
 
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[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brian V. Ryder
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oil compensating
 
Hello all
I have a question< I am reassembling my motors and contemplating oil
compensating them, there 4 hp 2900 RPM 36 volt DC and on the back of the
motor is the reversing solenoids 4 of them, no I understand from reading
that WD40 works great, what do I have to do to oil compensate them and will
the solenoids work there just a single throw 12volt solenoid like ones found
on a early model ford, I don't think the rmp loss will be an issue, when I
bench tested it today it spun up and blew the motor control manual all over
the deck all 68 pages, any thoughts would greatly be appreciated  
thanks
Brian V. Ryder
brian@subatlantic.com
 
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