Ah yes Willie Legrow spelling not correct I meet him thru Terry Dwyer and
willies backing partner I can't remember his name but he had a ship called
the lady Janet we looked at to buy but needed way more work then I was
prepared to do at the time just goes to show you it's a small world
On the sub note where might I start looking to buy a large hemispherical
view port about 54 inches trying to put together a realistic parts cost
thanks
Brian V. Ryder
Chief Engineer
Sub Sea Research LLC
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[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Phil Nuytten
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:02 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
Thanks, Brian . . .
I was aware of the drama over the past few years - the guy that was
'caretaking' used to work for me in Halifax - as a rig diver. He wasn't
exactly a 'Dudley Do-right' type - Bill Kenney claims he literally took
everything off the vessel except the sea-cocks!
I got tired of following it a couple of years ago when it looked like it
was going to be a protracted legal hassle - interesting to hear that it
finally ended. SDL is not the sort of sub th
at is in much demand these
days - with Katrina and Ivan over, the sat spreads are starting to pile up
in the boneyards again . . .ah, well - it was ever thus!
Surprised to see the E from Jonathan Newman - what is the submarine
dentist up to?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian V. Ryder" <Brian@subsearesearch.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>I do have info on it the vessel was in Halifax and an acquaintance of mine
> was contracted to clean and make ready for a move to Texas during the few
> weeks that it took there was a lack of payment as agreed, to now keep in
> mind that this is all hear say so after that the 2 to 5 million in spares
> on
> board started diapering so the ship was taken to Bridgewater where I then
> went to do a survey while I was there 2 people that represented them
> self's
> as government officials came aboard and stared removing radio equipment
> from
> the bridge I thought nothing of it so I proceeded to do with I needed to
> and
> left for Lunenburg, about a year later My boss and I returned to the
> vessel
> to take a second look that's when we meet the LtCMD the ship needed more
> work than we wanted to do at the time and he really did not want to sell
> it
> also he wanted me to testify as to what I knew and what I witnessed we
> left
> and I heard from him again last year he again wanted me to come up and
> testify then I heard nothing about it until just recently I still was very
> interested in the SDSL and it was still being listed by brokers and I was
> asking about 2 other he had listed and he sent the following email
> Hi Brian,
>
> I just spoke to the owner of the Cormorant=2
0and SDL1 sub. Both the vessel
> and
> the sub were recently sold at auction.
>
> The 1201 is available as previously noted.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jonathan Newman
> uvi@telus.net
> www.sub-find.com
>
> as far as I know there still in bridgewater
>
> Brian V. Ryder
> Chief Engineer
> Sub Sea Research LLC
> brian@subsearesearch.com
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> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Phil Nuytten
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:53 PM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>
> Hi, Brian:
> Well, both Aquarius and SDL-1 are white and orange so they are similar in
> that respect! SDL is the Beaver hulls redone for the DND (Dep't of
> National
> Defense) by Hyco, here in North Vancouver some 30+ years ago. SDL is a
> twin
> spherical hulled lock-out boat - it has Pisces-style small viewports but a
> single larger dome port was added years later by Jim MacFarland's ROV
> manufacturing co. ISE.
> We used this sub along with Pisces 4 off Cormorant to film the Newtsuit on
> the wreck of the 'Edmund Fitzgerald' in 1995.
> Pisces 4 went to NURP/HURL in Oahu - I was going to buy it but Terry Kerby
> put the word out to the sub community that he really wanted it badly as a
> back-up for Pisces 5. The few that were seriously interested graciously
> backed off and the Hawiian Undersea Research Lab (HURL) got it OK'
> The Cormo and SDL were bought by a Mexican gentleman in Browning,
> Texas,
>
> but were left in Halifax for a decade or more. Lots of legal wrangles,
> recently, over alleged theft of equipment by the caretakers. I was not
> aware that the sub and vessel were sold at auction. Any info on that?
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian V. Ryder" <Brian@subsearesearch.com>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:34 AM
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>
>
>> Hello Phil
>>
>> I believe it was a former Canadian navy ship called Cormorant and SDL1
>> going
>> back thru my records it was located in Bridgewater Nova Scotia, I believe
>> the ship and sub were just sold at auction as I remember it was one of
>> two
>> subs on the ship but one had been retained by the navy the ship has a
>> mysterious past as mysterious as the former US Navy Seal LT CMDR that was
>> in
>> charge or the ship, and as I look back my memory has failed me it's not
>> the
>> same but similar in appearance interesting nevertheless
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian V. Ryder
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Phil Nuytten
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:58 AM
>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>>
>> Hi, Brian,
>> Iwas just curious about the vessel on the east coast that had the same
>> sub
>> as Aquarius - do you recall the vessel or the name of the sub?
>> Phil
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian V. Ryder" <Brian@subatlantic.com>
>> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:30 PM
>> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>>
>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Yes the ship is 220' x 40' and 3600 shaft HP we are currently tied up in
>>> Boston we are trying to decide whether to head south for the winter or
>>> tough
>>> it out, my vote is the Dominican Republic or Haiti I do like the warm
>>> water,
>>> the depth we can work with the ROV is 3300 feet but the project depth
>>> now
>>> is
< SPAN style="COLOR: black">>>> only 650 and I am planning to shoot for around 1000 feet for the sub or
>>> even
>>> as much as 1500 feet, the one nice thing is I don't have to worry about
>>> weight and size I have a forty ton crane on the ship and a 100 ton A
>>> Frame
>>> so as long as it will fit on a flat bed I should be ok, we are having an
>>> Open House this coming weekend in Boston anyone interested drop me a
>>> note
>>> I
>>> can fill you in how to get there.
>>>
>>> Jon I think I am on the server twice , I get two copies of every mail,
>>>
>>> and I was thinking of going to the convention but my work was such that
>>> I
>>> was not going to be around, the Aquarius is a great sub we almost bought
>>> a
>>> ship that was outfitted with the same sub up in Canada east coast now
>>> they
>>> are wishing they had listened to my now but hind sight is 20/20
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian V. Ryder
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Jon Wallace
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:04 PM
>>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nuytco sub observations
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome aboard Brian, and thanks for joining PSUBS. That's one hell of
>>> a ship you've got there and big enough to host a convention on. I'm not
>>> too far away from you (in NH), although it sounds like you're probably
>>> out at sea for a good part of the year.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian V. Ryder wrote:
>>>> Hello all
>>>> I have been following the topics for a couple weeks and have enjoyed
>>>> and
>>>> benefitted from the information, I am a Chief Engineer on a research
>>>> ship
>>>> and also an ROV pilot and soon will be a sub pilot, I have convinced my
>>>> company that we could use a sub more effectively that a ROV, so I am
>>>> going
>>>> to build one, and I think we are going to buy one also, I had the
>>>> pleasure
>>>> of meeting Captain Kittredge yesterday and hope that when I am 92 I
>>>> will
>>> be
>>>> in as good shape, I started to read his book yesterday and am halfway
>>>> thru
>>>> it and can't put it down very interesting man.
>>>>
>>>> Again thanks and I have many questions
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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