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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Variable Ballast Calculations, Bill



Hi Carsten.
 
Thanks very much for taking the time to analyze my questions and respond. Mine was a long post
 
and I know it took a bit of your time.
 
Thank you for confirming for me that the system would work. After your advice on my questions
 
at least we know it CAN be done.   
 
I understand why you asked "why build an ambient".  I know exactly what you mean Carsten.
 
I thought about the same thing. I also thought, wouldn't it be better to just build a thicker hull and make it a
 
typical 1 atm sub? I thought to myself, "Sure it would", but then I thought.....But not everyone has access
 
to, or the funds to rent marina or metal working space and might not even know how to weld good enough
 
to trust themselves so they have to hire out the welding, indeed to hire out almost everything. So, I was
 
thinking of a sub that could go deeper than a typical ambient, with a maximum depth of 100 ft, the hull could be
 
built from much thinner steel, or even possibly other materials than steel, that could be built as a project by an average
 
person who was going to build an ambient sub anyway so decides to build an ambient/1atm so they can go deeper.
 
That was my thinking on "WHY?. Your answers made me question myself again. I was thinking of a design
 
in my mind, of what was mostly an ambient sub, that would convert to a sealed atm for a little better depth.
 
Your opinion on having to be very alert and watching gauges, working valves, and having to juggle things to make
 
everything work, makes a good point. Your opinion on why not make the hull a bit thicker and forget the ambient
 
completely makes a good point. Even in my mind I saw the hull in steel and you would have to have steel work
 
done anyway unless you could figure out another material that would withstand 2 to 3 atm external hull pressure that you could
 
construct at home.  So my primary thinking was of the average guy who was going to build an ambient project anyway,
 
and just decided to modify their design to safely go much deeper, and longer, than they normaly could by allowing their bodies
 
to accept some pressure that was within diving table safety limits. At least we know it is possible to do, but I am also
 
wondering if after the project was all done, would a person wish they had built it thicker and 1 atm for much deeper depths?
 
The more I think about it, I think yes, I believe I would regret not going ahead and just building a 1 atm sub instead of the
 
ambient sub that LIMITEDLY became a sealed atm sub with limited depth capability. Which brings me to a new way of
 
thinking of this hybrid sub design idea.
 
Although we know it would work, instead of approaching this from the aspect of a MOSTLY ambient sub, that switches between
 
ambient and a sealed atmosphere, why not approach it as a MOSTLY 1 atm sub that can become ambient so it also can dive deeper than it
 
normally could?  In other words, why not go ahead then and build a 1 atm that could go deep, and make her switchable to ambient so
 
you could dive even your 1 atm sub deeper than you normally would? Would that work? Has anyone tried or ever done that? To increase a
 
1 atm sub's depth capability within safe limits so it could dive deeper if necessary, with a pressurized hull atm than it normally could.
 
 
 
Thanks again Carsten for your helpful advice.
 
Bill.