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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Battery pod. (question for Dan H.)



Hi Ian.
 
My sub will be strapped into and between a modified catamaran's booms that connect the two hobie cat style hulls.
I intend to have a horseshoe shaped cradle made in the middle of the booms that will enable the sub to be able
to be lowered into the water and retreived by large straps tightened and loosened with a ratchet handle apparatus.
At the top of the horseshoe cradle will be bumpers made from firehose to cushion any wave impacts from the cat hulls transmitted thru the booms against the wetsub.
The wetsub will actually be out of the water and suspended under the cradle made into the middle of the hobie cat hull booms.
The catamaran can either motor under its own power with one person staying topside with it, or can be towed by another boat.
I do not plan to ever rest the sub's pod onto another boat's deck nor have anything banging against the pvc battery pod outside of just
floating it off of and resting it back onto the trailer and lowering the straps on the catamaran's horizonal booms to lower the sub into the water and reverse same to retrieve it.
The trailer supports will contact both hobie cat hulls and the battery pod, but I do not
think floating it off the trailer or floating it back on the trailer will be a problem.
 
I do see where if someone were setting their pod directly onto the pitching deck of a boat or lifting it from the boat where it was suspended in midair 
with a davit of some kind that the pod might be damaged in choppy seas if the sub swung into the boat or ship and the pod crashed into something extremely hard.
But as I said above, I will not be using a system like that to launch it. I'm currently on the hunt for an old hobie cat sailboat neglected in the weeds of someones
yard to modify into what I described above. Something between 20 to 24 feet long would be nice. I intend to construct a small enclosed deck behind the underslung sub for the
motor operator and some dive gear as well. This is a relatively cheap and safe means to get my sub to the dive location where I will not exceed 100 feet.
I have given this a lot of thought and since you can seldom count on other people's boats as being compatible with hauling your sub on their deck, after much thought
about transport systems this is what I am doing.
 
Kindest Regards, Bill Akins.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Battery pod. (question for Dan H.)


Hi Akins,

hopefully your sub would not have deal with something as hard as a
hammer hit during submerged operations, and I'm sure it's a lot
easier to exit a wet sub if needed compared to a 1ATM sub.  But
during the launch and recovery phases of the submarines operation
it will be a lot easier to generate the types of forces need to
crack the PVC.  Might be something worth considering during the
trailering process design.  Or maybe you could use either GRP
farings to protect them or cover the cylinders in a layer of GRP.

Ian.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:05:20 -0500
"Akins" <lakins1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Dear Ian.
>
> The 12 inch diameter pvc pipe I am using for my battery pod is approx 3/8th's of an inch thick. It is very strong, somewhat heavy and made
> much stronger once the permanent end cap and female threaded fitting are glued in place giving it support on both ends.
> Also being a pipe it is curved and will withstand more external stress than a flat surface. Perhaps if you hit it with a
> sledgehammer with a long swing and all your might it might crack but although I have never tried that, (12 inch pipe is expensive!) I'm thinking you would
> have to hit it multiple times to crack or bust it, this is thick and strong material. My wetsub itself is fiberglass and nowhere near
> as thick or as strong as this pvc is, so my battery pod will actually be stronger than the body of my wetsub itself.
> Hopefully being a wetsub and having excellent visibility I will not crash into anything with sufficient force to crack the pod.
> I think it would probably take more force than my 74 lb thrust minnkota motor could put out to bust my pvc pipe even if I purposely ran it into something.
> In the unlikely event that it develops a leak or were to somehow become compromised and fill with water my battery pod will be able to be jettisoned in case of
> an emergency so I think it is an appropiate battery pod material for a two man 12 foot long wetsub especially since I will never take my wetsub below 100 feet.
>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ian Roxborough
>   To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Battery pod. (question for Dan H.)
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>   What happens to PVC when you hit it hard with hammer?
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>   If it's the same stuff I'm thinking of, it will crack.
>
>   Ian.
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