Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OT: Copyrights

[Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>]

Hi Carl,

No, your mail was not offensive. You are correct that the best way to proceed to get the book on line or at a group discount is to contact the author and publisher. Do we have a voluteer to do the contacting?

I recall the brouhaha when talk about putting "Manned Submersibles" online was first discussed. I didn't want to start that up again since this book is most probably Copyrighted.

While I would like free copies to the book as much as anyone else I had to clearly state PSUBS position in the matter. Sort of officially going on record as it were. To support this project PSUBS will need written permission from Dr. Stachiw and all concerned parties.

On a positive note. Discussion of the book prompted me to order my own copy. Thanks guys. At the 2003 Convention it was brought to my attention the book was coming back into print. Until this discussion I was unaware it was actually in print. I might share if the library details could be worked out.

Regards,
Ray

Coalbunny wrote:
> 
> Ray, I hope my letter was not offensive....?
> Carl
> 
> Ray Keefer wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > To state PSUBS position right off the bat. PSUBS will not be part of copying Dr. Stachiw's book nor will we link to anyone who has. Unless of course PSUBS has in its possession writtened permission from Dr. Stachiw to do so. Which I doubt he would grant.
> >
> > If you want that book, it IS in print and available. Buy it now.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray
> >
> > Coalbunny wrote:
> > >
> > > Jorge, I realize the temptation is there, as is the need for a "free
> > > book".  But I think it shows the individual's personal quality if they'd
> > > rather "heist" a book instead of legally purchase it.  I'd rather go
> > > without than to take what is not rightfully mine.  That is what the
> > > copyright laws protect.
> > >
> > > But don't let that get in your way.  There could be a way around it.
> > > Try contacting the author and see if he/she would consent to our group
> > > having free copies.  And who knows, they may provide them themselves off
> > > of their computer.  How many authors don't keep a e-copy of their book?
> > > Some, yeah.  And some do.
> > >
> > > It is the honorable thing to ask.
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > "Jorge Lourenço Jr." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What if someone in a country not subjected to the copyrights laws of the book's country of origin
> > > > copies it and make it available to a bunch of bosom friends ? Would it be an infringement ?
> > > >
> > > > I realize that it may even be morally objectionable but I can hardly believe it would be illegal.
> > > >
> > > > I'm aware that we are diving in murky waters but seriously folks, what do you think ?
> > > >
> > > > Lawyers, to circumvent the legal stumbling blocks, are given an obscene amount of that green stuff
> > > > you guys seem to be always running after ;^))
> > > >
> > > > As far as I know, my country has never signed an agreement on copyright enforcement under the US
> > > > regulations. I may be wrong though...
> > > >
> > > > Jorge L.
> > > >
> > > > -----Mensagem original-----
> > > > De: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]Em nome de
> > > > Chris Nugent
> > > > Enviada em: sexta-feira, 9 de janeiro de 2004 01:37
> > > > Para: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Assunto: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] HANDBOOK OF ACRYLICS FOR SUBMERSIBLES available
> > > >
> > > >   Oh, right, umm....that's what I meant...umm....yeah...it'd be cool, if it wasn't for that whole
> > > > copyright infringement thingy....hmm...bummer.   ;)
> > > >
> > > >    Nuge
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