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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention Videos



Hi Michael,

Thanks for the lo down. Sounds like VCD is the way to go. I have a
CD burner in the budget. I hope my computer will support it as its a 
200MHZ Pentium dinosar.

Thanks,
Ray


Michael Wright wrote:
> Compact Discs come in three physical formats:
> 
> Commercial (anything that is sold with the data or audio already on it)
> 
> CDR    (CDRs are write once media, anyone with a cd burner and software 
> can write them, blanks cost $20 per spindle of 50.  A fast burner can 
> write full CDs in about 5 minutes.)
> 
> CDRW    (Like CDRs except more expensive and they can be erased and reused)
> 
> CDs come in two sizes (74 Minute, 650MB, and 80 Minute, 700MB
> 
> DVDs now come in the same varieties, but with some complexity as to what 
> will work in what device.  DVD Writers are still quite expensive and 
> slow.  A DVD holds 4,000 Megabytes of data
> 
> 
> 
> As to video formats:
> 
> 
> DVD Movies:  Are normally commercialy produced.  These can hold about 4 
> hours of high quality video.  The play on set-top dvd players and 
> computers with appropriate hardware and software.  Can be commercialy 
> produced or written to DVDR media.
> 
> VCD: Video CD.  About the same quality as VHS.  Uses Mpeg1 compression 
> and each CD holds about the same amount of video and audio as it would 
> CD quality audio.  (so 60 to 80 minutes per disc).  VCDs can be 
> commercialy written or written on CDR or CDRW media.  Most set top DVD 
> players can also play VCDs.  Computers with CDROM Drives can play them 
> with software.
> 
> SVCD: Super Video CD.  Nearly DVD quality.  Uses better compression than 
> VCD.  Each disk holds about an hour.  Plays on computers and Set Top DVD 
> players that support SVCD.  Can also be written just like any other CD 
> on a computer.
> 
> I'd go with VCD format because it's good enough for presentations and 
> works on a good number of set top players.  At this point I don't have a 
> fast burner or I'd offer to make the copies.
> 
> If necessary I can figure out how to take DVD master to VCD master and 
> runn off a couple of copies.  We can always resort to kinkos for cd 
> copies, but it might be cheaper to just buy a fast burner for whoever is 
> willing to watch it for a few hours.
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ray Keefer wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> OK, I'll expose my ignorance. I have a old PC that will read CDs but 
>> will not write them nor read DVD's. So when someone starts talking about
>> CDR media, DVD, DVT... formats.
>>
>> Can someone spell out what formats there are and which are 
>> reproducible at low cost and what equipment is needed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> Warren Greenway wrote:
>>
>>> You know folks, you can make VCD and other format
>>> video
>>> disks on standard CDR media for $0.30 each that will play on any PC 
>>> and most DVD players. Just thought I'd
>>> mention this, since DVD burning is still not the cheapest or 
>>> smoothest thing.
>>>
>>> Warren.
>>>
>>> --- Alec Smyth <Asmyth@changepoint.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to clarify this... I'll be happy to tape and
>>>> edit. The work should
>>>> take me about 2 weeks to complete, based on my
>>>> experience last year (and
>>>> hopefully I've learned something since then!) The
>>>> media will cost about
>>>> $100, which PSUBS can consider a donation. However,
>>>> what I cannot do is
>>>> mass produce DVDs, because my burner takes a huge
>>>> amount of time to do
>>>> each one. I remember leaving it working overnight
>>>> last year. It was so
>>>> time-consuming that I couldn't face producing a
>>>> second set for myself,
>>>> and sent Ray the originals.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has the capacity to make lots of copies,
>>>> whether on DVD or
>>>> VHS, I'm sure Ray would like to hear from you. The
>>>> "raw material" for
>>>> such a copying operation could be either DVDs or DV
>>>> tapes, in NTSC
>>>> format, but I have no VHS equipment.
>>>> I was just afraid that reading the preceding
>>>> message, folks might get
>>>> the impression they could "order" DVDs from me, when
>>>> I just don't have
>>>> the ability to produce them.
>>>>
>>>> It would be *really* nice if last year's talks were
>>>> available at this
>>>> year's convention, after all the work the presenters
>>>> put into their
>>>> talks and the effort Ray put into organizing it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Alec
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jonathan Wallace [mailto:jon@psubs.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 
>>>> 15, 2003 2:40 PM
>>>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Is Carsten coming to the convention!!!  For those
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> of us not able to
>>>>
>>>>> attend will there be any type of Q&A  with and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> internet hook up?
>>>>
>>>> Just to confirm what Ray said.  Carsten has already
>>>> said that he will
>>>> not be attending the conference this year.  The
>>>> conference will not be
>>>> webcast and I don't believe we have an Internet
>>>> connection available
>>>> in the conference room.  However, Alec Smyth has
>>>> offered to tape the
>>>> event and create CD's or DVD's for distribution
>>>> after the fact.  It
>>>> will be up to Alec to determine what the cost of the
>>>> disks will be but I'm sure we'll have more info in late August.
>>>>
>>>> This is probably a good reminder however.  We are
>>>> exactly one month
>>>> away from the convention.  There are still some
>>>> people who have not
>>>> submitted payment yet, so please send it in or use
>>>> PayPal asap so we
>>>> can cover expenses.  Also, if you are a presenter,
>>>> please forward me
>>>> your presentation in .doc, .ppt, or .pdf format so
>>>> people can follow
>>>> along in their binders.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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