The LED in Phil’s new light are pre-production units pushed past their optimal design spec. to produce more light. The lights were produced in-house at Nuytco and I thought Phil stated that they will be for sale. R/Jay From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com Nuytco is using a compensated multi-LED light with a soft lens (which does the compensating). I didn't ask what they cost, but it might be worth doing as a comparison. Dr. Phil said it worked a treat. Don't know if they are building or buying, or whether they are marketing them. It looked like a good alternative, however. Vance |