Hi 
  David, 
  There 
  is only a depth sounder  on board and it needs a passive Sonar of some 
  sort so I want to fit that microphone to it.  Would be good to have 
  something. I am wanting to get it out from Tutukaka and dive on the Niagara 
  with a bit of help from Keith Gordon who is the resident expert on the wreck 
  and wrote a book on it.  He has got some sort of rights to it as there is 
  still some gold on board.  I will be triying it out somewhere safer first 
  though.  Have to have dreams.  I’ll be in touch on the build 
  though.  Count on it.   Hugh
     
  
  
  From: 
  owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
  [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of David 
  Bartsch
Sent: 13 September 2009 17:20
To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive 
  planes
  
   
  Hugh,
 
  
  Very good submarine! It seems as if you have more room than a standard psub. 
  Well kept. I like your angle indicators...just aquired one simular.
  
  Once operational, where do you ihtend to get her wet?
  Any sonar be 
  it passive or active aboard? Ever thought of building one? I can 
  help.
 
                                                                                                         
  David Bartsch
 
  
  
  
  From: 
  hc.fulton@gmail.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: 
  [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive planes
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:25:32 
+1200
  
  Jay 
  ‘n’ Vance.  
  Thks 
  that is helpful stuff.   I was thinking of putting some planes on 
  the Comsub.  It has had a rudder retrofitted about 12” x 24” high but it 
  is in the prop wash.  I am just reconnecting the aft lateral thruster and 
  reconditioning all the hydraulics.  AThe hydraulic pump is really noisy 
  so I’m thinking of putting a pulse suppressor on and a 5 litre accumulator 
  with a pressure switch.  Otherwise I think it will drive me nuts.  I 
  want to go down for some peace and quiet.  
   
  I 
  have uploaded a few photos of the internals and bits on the projects page 
  under “Hugh Fulton”   Comsub.
   
  
   
  
  
  From: 
  owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
  [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Jay K. 
  Jeffries
Sent: 13 September 2009 12:31
To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive 
  planes
  
   
  Hugh,
  I 
  am still working on my presentation for the upcoming Conference and need to 
  figure the various increases in size for the control surfaces for the 
  Seehunde.  Just remember in the back of my mind the large tail 
  surfaces on some Perry submersibles...I may be wrong but it just sticks in the 
  back on my mind.  Some of the images in Busby’s Manned 
  Submersibles might be of assistance.
   
  After 
  writing the previous email and recollecting on the classes I attended over 
  lunch while at Electric Boat, for larger Navy subs that have the capability to 
  operate at higher speeds, the control surfaces are relatively small when 
  compared to the size of a hull (effectiveness of control surfaces goes up with 
  speed).  The minimum effective speed for these surfaces was 3 
  knots.  For a PSUB, the control surfaces are larger in area compared to 
  hull size so may be more effective.  Unfortunately for us, there is very 
  little in the way of published naval architecture references for submersible 
  design and even less for subs the size of the typical PSUB.
  R/Jay
   
   
  Resepectfully,
  Jay 
  K. Jeffries
  Andros 
  Is., Bahamas
   
  Save 
  the whales, collect the whole set.
   
   
   
  
  
  From: 
  owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
  [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Hugh 
  Fulton
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:22 PM
To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dive 
  planes
  
   
  For 
  the uninitiated what size were they?  Mm or inches will do. 
  Approximations gratefully accepted.
  Would 
  be helpful.  2 sq ft,  6 sq ft?  approx length and 
  breadth.  Hugh
   
  
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