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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Over Pressure Valve Options



Brent,
 
Does your sub have the snorkel on it?  Most K subs built by Kittredge did. 
 
When I surface I open the valve to the snorkel and equalize the pressure.  It's almost always negative in the sub because of the temperature difference of the air I left the surface with and the internal temp of what I'm returning with.  When I dive in New York States Finger lakes, the water temp isn't much over forty degrees all year around.  At the end of a summer time dive in there, I vent to equalize and have to swallow to clear my ears because they pop so much when I surface and vent.  It's difficult to open the hatch if I don't first vent.
 
If you were positive pressurized from a problem, your snorkel should release it.  The barometer is a good idea but you shouldn't need any extra piping if you have the snorkel.
 
Dan H.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Over Pressure Valve Options



Hi Alec,
 
I very much like the idea of using a barometer to see if there is any pressure build up in the cabin and as part of the O2 dosing system.  A pesky leak is what got Kittredge.  When he was at depth it wouldn't of bled out of a small or large over pressure valve/pop off valve, until the pressure was over the pressure at the outlet of the over pressure valve and able to over come what ever the spring pressure is on the valve(s).
 
So when he decided to pop to the surface quickly, a small over pressure valve likely wouldn't able to let enough air out fast enough.
 

Regards,

Szybowski



 

Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Side Thruster Options
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:14:52 -0400
From: Alec.Smyth@compuware.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org

Simple solution... just put a T in your pressure gauge line, and a little check valve of the kind that's a SS ball seated by a spring. You can get them for maybe 10 bucks on eBay and they work like a charm. I know, a small instrumentation line isn't large enough to relieve huge volumes of air. But what you're contending with is pesky little small leaks that go unnoticed. Also, install a barometer in the sub.


From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brent Hartwig
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:14 PM
To: PSUBSorg
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Side Thruster Options



Hello Alec, 

Your reminded me of one reason I didn't wish to go with air compensated thrusters. It was a slow bleed into the interior of a K-250 that George was running, that made the hatch dome pop out when he started to ascend, and he was lucky to of survived. This is also why I plan to install a over pressure valve much like the larger one that is installed on the KSS.  Except I'll be mounting mine in the bottom of the sub so it can also be used to drain the sub after a wet exit training exercise.



Regards,

Szybowski