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Also here is a well put together article with picture about obtaining and then processing lead wheel weights. "Wheel weights are those little lead things the tire dealer clips to your tire rim to balance a new tire. The lead in them is about 3% antimony to make them hard enough to handle the stress of a spinning wheel. This is especially good for the keel caster because fin keels generally call for between 3 and 5% antimony. Pure lead is to soft to support the weight and pure casting antimony cost more than the recycled lead. I have been paying 12 cents/pound for CLEAN weights and 10 to 11 cents if there is a lot of trash or tire stems in the bucket. (1997-1998 prices) A five-gallon bucket will hold between 150 and 170 pounds of passenger car wheel weights and about 200 pounds of truck weights. A full 20-gallon grease drum holds about 500 pounds. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOVE ONE OF THESE DRUMS BY YOURSELF!" http://www.rutuonline.com/html/wheel_weights.html Regards, Szybowski From: brenthartwig@hotmail.com To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Recycling Lead Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:52:51 -0700 Hello Frank, Some of my friends and I have are local tire retailers, and wrecking yards save the old wheel weights they remove and melt them down for anchors, muzzle loader balls, and canon balls. The lead alloy is harder then lead by it's self since they add things like antimony and tin to it. Put for are purposes, that shouldn't be an issue. Some call it Antimonial Lead. We obtain most are wheel weights for free, but some times have to pay some thing like .07 cents a pound. Of course you still have to melt it down and remove the steel tabs. http://www.lead-battery-recycling.com/Other-Lead-Scrap.html It looks like they are phasing out lead wheel weights in California. http://www.takepart.com/blog/2008/08/21/lead-wheel-weights-to-be-phased-out-in-california-by-end-of-2009/ I had saved a few old batteries to melt down the lead plates for muzzle loading, but also noticed that there wasn't much to the old plates, and didn't see it as being worth all the trouble and toxic fumes. It's all in the pursuit of a even keel. As for me if I was on a even keel, then I wouldn't have a chance of having the boat all to myself. ;}' Regards, Szybowski From: ShellyDalg@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:46:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Side Thruster Options To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Hi Les. Sounds like you're making good progress. I'll check your new pics soon.
On the lead from batteries.....way more trouble than it's worth. Most of the lead in an old battery is worthless oxide. I tried breaking an old one down, melting all the crap, and ended up with a tiny bit of dirty lead and a whole bunch of toxic crap left over. There's places on ebay that sell lead ingots and ship free but it's pricey! The cheapest I've found there was 76 cents a pound. At 1800 pounds, OUCH! Frank D.
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