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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Vertical Hulled Sub
Ken,
This is nice, simple, and very stable. But I see two
problems with it. The visibility through the dome is like the K-250, very good
but unfortunately in a direction that is almost useless when submerged. In the
K-250, when underwater you try to see what you can through the viewport at your
feet, because the dome doesn't allow you to see the bottom. The second issue I
see is that with this hull geometry, your viewport is always going to be very
high above the bottom.
thanks,
Alec
Brian,
What an interesting concept! That's really different, I was
originally looking at the iterations of the "Florida Manatee" and there was one
which showed the side length-running ballast tanks were turnable, so that the
sub body could be rotated to vertical with the MBT's still holding horizontal,
providing surface support. It was just a quick sketch but I used to think
it had something to it.
I've found the perfect picture of what I'm looking for but can't figure out
who made it. I'll put a link to it here and maybe someone can shed some
light on its designer. It looks like a SolidWorks item... I saw it and I
was going THATS IT!! THATS IT!!! lol. I've already made
modifications in my mind, decided equipment placement and made some changes, but
the basic idea was perfect.
I kept trying to improve on the MBT design, to improve
freeboard. I've decided that the inner edge of the MBT should have a
vertical lip, which fits into a locking groove which runs around the hull, and
locks it into place from underneath. Then several bolted stantions from
the outer lip to the hull would provide ridgidity, and !!! would make the whole
MBT somewhat easily removable. There would be just enough cast lead
or steel on the inside at the bottom to always maintain a vertical attitude, so
as not to spill a load sideways. And the emergency drop weight is actually
a steel/lead ring, which slips over the bottom end of the hull, and is held in
place by two thru-hulls so that it fits semi snug at the very lower edge of the
hulls cylindrical part. The props would most likely be replaced with
a single prop stationed via an arm straight out in front of the hull, and
trainable, allowing for forward, sideways and rearward movement. VBT would
likely be in a seperate pressure tank underneath the MBT shroud. The
trailering sounded interesting.
I decided on a vertical trailering approach,
in order to avoid hassle. The trailer would have a circular stand
which fits around the hull, and holds it upright, though is hindged from the
back, to allow it to open up like arms, un-hugging the hull when it is in the
water and allowing it to bob away. If anyone has actually been able to
visualize any of the things ive just mentioned, while looking at the picture and
go "yeah I think I see what he means", let me know what you think.
Brian Cox <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
Yes, my sub is designed like this. I don't
have a dome but I will be using standard viewports.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007
04:24
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Vertical
Hulled Sub
Has anyone else built or created any design ideas using a vertical hull
for a one person, very small sub? where you would sit upright, and
view out the dome which is also the hatch? I've solved what I think
are many of the design problems inherent, but there's usually always someone
who's thought of something else, or has more experience.
Anyone?
Ken
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