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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Group support...or is that "Support Group"?



Carsten: Vielen Dank! I really appreciate this. This is a real "support group" that has no equal. And with such experten! I'll have lot of questions so bear with me. However small right now, I can see a light at the end of the tunnel. Du bist wunderbar-Alles Gute!-Mark

Mark E. Steed
Arkansas State University Museum
110 Cooley Drive,PO Box#490
State University, AR 72467-0490 
USA
Tel#(870)972-2074 Fax#(870)972-2793
Email: plutomark@mail.astate.edu



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuss)
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Date:  Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:01 +0100

>Mark, the best sources are: (Contains also the GAP) 
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>Die Seehunde, Klaus Mattes
>Mittler 1995 ISBN 3-8132-0484-7
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>Midget Submarines of the Second World War 
>Paul Kemp, Chatham publishing
>ISBN 1 - 86176 042 6
>Comes with a GAP of a Seehund and a X-craft
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>This guy makes really good copy drawings of the original : 
>(Biber, X-craft, Holland etc.) 
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>http://www.john-lambert-plans.com/
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>I have the X-craft from him and there are really nicely. 
>
>regards Carsten 
>
>Mark Steed schrieb:
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>> After digesting everything from yesterday and studying about all this, my vote is with the Seehund. With a design such as it, I can actually picture myself with a PSub someday. I have a very long way to go to even begin such a project but this is the path I will take. Doug, I may take you up on your great and ever present generosity. I speak pretty good German too. Thanks-and best regards- Mark-Psubs SOFLOT ARDRON (Mike-I love the acronyms!)
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>> Mark E. Steed
>> Arkansas State University Museum
>> 110 Cooley Drive,PO Box#490
>> State University, AR 72467-0490
>> USA
>> Tel#(870)972-2074 Fax#(870)972-2793
>> Email: plutomark@mail.astate.edu
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: SeaLordOne@aol.com
>> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> Date:  Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:31:14 EST
>> 
>> >Dewey,
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>> >Why the biber?  Biber was one of the most poorly designed midget subs of
>> >WWII, as I recall.  Sea keeping was poor, visibility was non-existent, few made it
>> >back to port because of suffication and operational limitations, and it had
>> >no depth keeping functionality.  If you dived, you simply sunk all the way to
>> >the bottom.  There was no way to hold depth.
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>> >I assume you will redesign the hull and internal structures, and replace the
>> >gas engine with diesel?  While they did not perform well, they did look pretty
>> >cool!  I would certainly be willing to share my sources (some in German) with
>> >you, if that is what you want to do.  Ever consider a Seehund?  That was a
>> >very well designed boat.  I could get into that project.  Any other opinions out
>> >there?
>> >
>> >Doug Farrow
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