Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] escape & rescue

[Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>]

Hey Warren,

Can we get your uncle to speak at the next convention?
Some colorful insights into the working of the Coast Guard
might be enlightening.

Regards,
Ray

Warren Greenway wrote:
> 
> Hey Ray, my uncle just retired from the Coast Guard
> after nearly thirty years of service. His stories tell
> me that the Coast Guard is happy to use a disaster
> situation (sinking PSUB, for example) as a more
> colorful training scenario. I'm sure they wouldn't
> have
> a problem making the rescue. However, how does one go
> about sending a distress call when under 300' of
> water?
> 
> Warren.
> 
> --- Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM> wrote:
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > From time to time I have thought about who is going
> > to rescue a PSUBer.
> > I doubt the Navy would dispach a DSRV to rescue one
> > of us and personally I think the Coast Guard would
> > rather haul up a sub with bodies. That way they can
> > tell the populace, see these things are dangerous,
> > they need to be banned, regulated, or whatever. If
> > the Coast Guard recued a PSUBer then the publicity
> > might encourage more PSUBers.
> >
> > Of course we could just tell the Coast Guard that
> > the sub that went down was a drug sub, or Al Quida
> > (SP?) leader, with lots of intel, is alive down
> > there. To that the Coast Guard might respond
> > promptly.
> >
> > Question will then be, do they have the skills and
> > equipment to go deep enough to get that PSUB up? A
> > hundred surface ships floating around will be
> > useless unless they can get down to the PSUB to
> > help.
> >
> > The conclusion I have come up with is PSUBers must
> > rescue themselves or each other. How heavy is a
> > K-350? Can I say air transportable? A buddy goes
> > down, unable to get back up, his surface contact
> > with the dive plan calls for help, the rest of us
> > moblize and fly and boat to the scene with a few
> > K-boats.
> >
> > We are a long ways from that level of
> > interdependance and cooperation but as
> > more and more subs come on line the possiblity of
> > being a mere hours from help may one day be
> > realized.
> >
> > As a related topic. What kind tools can we attached
> > to a PSUB to go recue some one with? An arm? Some
> > kind of cutting tool, like bolt cutters or torch?
> > Lift bags that can be snapped onto the stricken PSUB
> > then inflated?
> >
> > Could the recue boat be the two propulsor type, like
> > a K-boat, or would you really need three axises of
> > motion.
> >
> > How do you keep the rescue PSUB from getting trapped
> > or caught like the first one?
> >
> > The stricken boat. What kind of equipment should be
> > manditory? Marker bouy?
> > Underwater comms? Sonic and visible beacons?
> >
> > Certainly drop weights, ballast blow, flood and
> > emergency ascent, minimum of 72 hours life support
> > are the mere minimum requirements.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > SeaLordOne@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Shipmates,
> > >
> > > I would like your views on escape and rescue.
> > >
> > > As to the original "caught in a net" problem, I
> > have the impression that the average psub would lack
> > the power or bouyancy to escape a large net.  These
> > new mega nets, do they call them drift nets?, are
> > many miles long and many tons heavy.  About 10 years
> > ago I read of a section of net three miles long that
> > had broken off and was killing porposes off the US
> > coastline. I don't see how anything short of
> > Carsten's U-Boat could survive an encounter with
> > that much net.  Does anyone know any more about
> > these mega nets?  Are there still large sections
> > floating loose out there?
> > >
> > > Then comes rescue.  Who is going to come to our
> > rescue?  I get the impression from reading the paper
> > that the U.S. Coast Guard has been largly
> > re-purposed for homeland security, and that private
> > boat towing firms are the closest thing to a "rescue
> > operation" most boats see these days.  Do you still
> > think the Coast Guard would/could help us?
> > >
> > > Doug Farrow
> 
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