Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] escape & rescue

[Warren Greenway <opensourcesub@yahoo.com>]

Hey Ray, my uncle just retired from the Coast Guard 
after nearly thirty years of service. His stories tell
me that the Coast Guard is happy to use a disaster
situation (sinking PSUB, for example) as a more 
colorful training scenario. I'm sure they wouldn't
have
a problem making the rescue. However, how does one go
about sending a distress call when under 300' of
water?

Warren.

--- Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM> wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> 
> From time to time I have thought about who is going
> to rescue a PSUBer.
> I doubt the Navy would dispach a DSRV to rescue one
> of us and personally I think the Coast Guard would
> rather haul up a sub with bodies. That way they can
> tell the populace, see these things are dangerous,
> they need to be banned, regulated, or whatever. If
> the Coast Guard recued a PSUBer then the publicity
> might encourage more PSUBers.
> 
> Of course we could just tell the Coast Guard that
> the sub that went down was a drug sub, or Al Quida
> (SP?) leader, with lots of intel, is alive down
> there. To that the Coast Guard might respond
> promptly.
> 
> Question will then be, do they have the skills and
> equipment to go deep enough to get that PSUB up? A
> hundred surface ships floating around will be
> useless unless they can get down to the PSUB to
> help.
> 
> The conclusion I have come up with is PSUBers must
> rescue themselves or each other. How heavy is a
> K-350? Can I say air transportable? A buddy goes
> down, unable to get back up, his surface contact
> with the dive plan calls for help, the rest of us
> moblize and fly and boat to the scene with a few
> K-boats.
> 
> We are a long ways from that level of
> interdependance and cooperation but as
> more and more subs come on line the possiblity of
> being a mere hours from help may one day be
> realized.
> 
> As a related topic. What kind tools can we attached
> to a PSUB to go recue some one with? An arm? Some
> kind of cutting tool, like bolt cutters or torch?
> Lift bags that can be snapped onto the stricken PSUB
> then inflated?
> 
> Could the recue boat be the two propulsor type, like
> a K-boat, or would you really need three axises of
> motion.
> 
> How do you keep the rescue PSUB from getting trapped
> or caught like the first one?
> 
> The stricken boat. What kind of equipment should be
> manditory? Marker bouy?
> Underwater comms? Sonic and visible beacons?
> 
> Certainly drop weights, ballast blow, flood and
> emergency ascent, minimum of 72 hours life support
> are the mere minimum requirements.
> 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> 
> 
> SeaLordOne@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Shipmates,
> > 
> > I would like your views on escape and rescue.
> > 
> > As to the original "caught in a net" problem, I
> have the impression that the average psub would lack
> the power or bouyancy to escape a large net.  These
> new mega nets, do they call them drift nets?, are
> many miles long and many tons heavy.  About 10 years
> ago I read of a section of net three miles long that
> had broken off and was killing porposes off the US
> coastline. I don't see how anything short of
> Carsten's U-Boat could survive an encounter with
> that much net.  Does anyone know any more about
> these mega nets?  Are there still large sections
> floating loose out there?
> > 
> > Then comes rescue.  Who is going to come to our
> rescue?  I get the impression from reading the paper
> that the U.S. Coast Guard has been largly
> re-purposed for homeland security, and that private
> boat towing firms are the closest thing to a "rescue
> operation" most boats see these days.  Do you still
> think the Coast Guard would/could help us?
> > 
> > Doug Farrow


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