----- Original Message ----- From: "Carsten Standfuß" <MerlinSub@t-online.de> > And I found the "Le Plongeur" from Bourgois and Brun from 1863. This was not a fiction it was a real boat and built. It was launched 8.6.1863 and looks like a copy of my drawing.. [I've read that Verne may have been influenced by the design on this sub.] VBR, Pat