[PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople

Sun Jul 17 17:11:21 EDT 2016

The ¤20,000 is a acceptable cost. Your idea is pretty good, it is really
good to hear a advice from more experience person. And one more question,
this kind of sub need to register or certificated, yes?

2016-07-17 21:58 GMT+02:00 Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:

> That's a good question, but one that's hard to nail down just the same. It
> very much depends on the skills you currently have and the machinery
> available to you. If you are a fabricator with decent skills and a "fully
> loaded" machine shop, you could probably do a K-350 for $12,000 - $20,000
> (depending on local availability of steel and your thriftiness in buying
> other parts). If you lack fab skills/access to a shop you will need to hire
> some of the work out and this will increase the cost of the build
> significantly (perhaps to the $35,000 - $50,000 range).
>
> Any way you slice it, if you are building a sub it's going to mean some
> combination of sweat and money. In my opinion the best thing to do is split
> the project into several stages - like Pressure hull, Ballasting system,
> Propulsion, Cabin, Exterior - Then start with basic pressure hull and don't
> worry about anything else until the basic pressure hull is complete. Just
> my idea... Doug S.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Kamil Żebrowski <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> I am sound like a newbie. So the best starting point is K-250, K-350?
>> What is a cost of K-350? Douglas thank you for advice.
>>
>> 2016-07-17 20:23 GMT+02:00 Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
>>
>>> Kamil, a visit to subs in your general area is a great idea if you can
>>> find the time to slip away. 'Manned Submersibles' is an awesome resource as
>>> well, kudos to you for your willingness to do research prior to starting
>>> your first build.
>>>
>>> Without trying to sound discouraging, I want to say that to me, the
>>> goals you outlined in a previous email seem quite ambitious. If you have
>>> the financial means, time/space and necessary fabrication skills, anything
>>> is possible, but for many of us, we're on a "budget" when it comes to all
>>> of those things, so you may find that your dream sub is not practical as a
>>> first build. In my opinion, a K-350 would be a great project for you to
>>> start with, then work your way to a larger sub. Just my thoughts... Doug
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:16 AM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via
>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Description fits 100% on Emiles - Nordicsub. vbr Carsten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>>>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople
>>>>
>>>> Datum: 2016-07-16T23:43:12+0200
>>>>
>>>> Von: "Kamil Żebrowski via Personal_Submersibles" <
>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>
>>>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And I see that Emilie have an option on the website to sale a plan for
>>>> a sub. I will check that.
>>>>
>>>> 2016-07-16 23:39 GMT+02:00 Kamil Żebrowski <zebros512 at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for a lot of information, You have a right that I should
>>>>> make trip like this,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, as i thinking about requirement list it is simply:
>>>>> 3 person sound great,
>>>>> dive deep 200m
>>>>> seas and lakes,
>>>>> best will be undependly.
>>>>> Easy to write hard to make.I started read a book Manned Submerisble,
>>>>> maybe it will help something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kamil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-07-16 19:11 GMT+02:00 MerlinSub at t-online.de via
>>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kamil, welcome here. Not so so Much Psubers in Europe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a another two seater in Potsdam near Berlin. Reinhards Nemo
>>>>>> II.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes one one man and one fife man in Rostock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before you build something in real steel maybe go Berlin - Rostock  -
>>>>>> Amsterdam to get some input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to purchase some drawings and than convert to someting else make
>>>>>> not so much sence for a custom build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First step should be a requirement list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many persons ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which range in which time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dive deep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seaworthy or lakes, co caves or all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Undependly orwith a support boat ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so on. A sub for the baltic will look complete different from a
>>>>>> cave diver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Berlin:Reinhards 2 Seater with saddle tanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4DS0r6n44
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rostock:My boats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One man 0,5 t with sadlle tanks and for sale,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> second unita is a 70ts Offhsore with diver chamber and for and aft
>>>>>> tanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaTaWY0dhg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRv2Ri4FmiY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Near Amsterdam:  Emiles 3 Seater with Saddle tanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a 1-3 Seater I prefer sattle tanks. Boat gets shorter length
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and much mors stable on the surface with persons on the deck. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is another boat near Hannover: Lars Boat Comet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgKKrghP5g
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vbr Carsten Rostock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Datum: 2016-07-16T14:09:38+0200
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Von: "Kamil Żebrowski via Personal_Submersibles" <
>>>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>>>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yea, I am from Poland. Nice to know, i will contact with him. Thanks
>>>>>> for info. It will be good opportiunity to check how it looks like to dive;)
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