[PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople

Sun Jul 17 15:58:22 EDT 2016

That's a good question, but one that's hard to nail down just the same. It
very much depends on the skills you currently have and the machinery
available to you. If you are a fabricator with decent skills and a "fully
loaded" machine shop, you could probably do a K-350 for $12,000 - $20,000
(depending on local availability of steel and your thriftiness in buying
other parts). If you lack fab skills/access to a shop you will need to hire
some of the work out and this will increase the cost of the build
significantly (perhaps to the $35,000 - $50,000 range).

Any way you slice it, if you are building a sub it's going to mean some
combination of sweat and money. In my opinion the best thing to do is split
the project into several stages - like Pressure hull, Ballasting system,
Propulsion, Cabin, Exterior - Then start with basic pressure hull and don't
worry about anything else until the basic pressure hull is complete. Just
my idea... Doug S.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Kamil Żebrowski <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> I am sound like a newbie. So the best starting point is K-250, K-350? What
> is a cost of K-350? Douglas thank you for advice.
>
> 2016-07-17 20:23 GMT+02:00 Douglas Suhr via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
>
>> Kamil, a visit to subs in your general area is a great idea if you can
>> find the time to slip away. 'Manned Submersibles' is an awesome resource as
>> well, kudos to you for your willingness to do research prior to starting
>> your first build.
>>
>> Without trying to sound discouraging, I want to say that to me, the goals
>> you outlined in a previous email seem quite ambitious. If you have the
>> financial means, time/space and necessary fabrication skills, anything is
>> possible, but for many of us, we're on a "budget" when it comes to all of
>> those things, so you may find that your dream sub is not practical as a
>> first build. In my opinion, a K-350 would be a great project for you to
>> start with, then work your way to a larger sub. Just my thoughts... Doug
>> S.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:16 AM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Description fits 100% on Emiles - Nordicsub. vbr Carsten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople
>>>
>>> Datum: 2016-07-16T23:43:12+0200
>>>
>>> Von: "Kamil Żebrowski via Personal_Submersibles" <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>
>>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And I see that Emilie have an option on the website to sale a plan for a
>>> sub. I will check that.
>>>
>>> 2016-07-16 23:39 GMT+02:00 Kamil Żebrowski <zebros512 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for a lot of information, You have a right that I should make
>>>> trip like this,
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, as i thinking about requirement list it is simply:
>>>> 3 person sound great,
>>>> dive deep 200m
>>>> seas and lakes,
>>>> best will be undependly.
>>>> Easy to write hard to make.I started read a book Manned Submerisble,
>>>> maybe it will help something.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kamil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-07-16 19:11 GMT+02:00 MerlinSub at t-online.de via
>>>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kamil, welcome here. Not so so Much Psubers in Europe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a another two seater in Potsdam near Berlin. Reinhards Nemo
>>>>> II.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes one one man and one fife man in Rostock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Before you build something in real steel maybe go Berlin - Rostock  -
>>>>> Amsterdam to get some input.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to purchase some drawings and than convert to someting else make
>>>>> not so much sence for a custom build.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> First step should be a requirement list.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many persons ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which range in which time?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dive deep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seaworthy or lakes, co caves or all?
>>>>>
>>>>> Undependly orwith a support boat ?
>>>>>
>>>>> And so on. A sub for the baltic will look complete different from a
>>>>> cave diver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Berlin:Reinhards 2 Seater with saddle tanks
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4DS0r6n44
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rostock:My boats.
>>>>>
>>>>> One man 0,5 t with sadlle tanks and for sale,
>>>>>
>>>>> second unita is a 70ts Offhsore with diver chamber and for and aft
>>>>> tanks
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaTaWY0dhg
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRv2Ri4FmiY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Near Amsterdam:  Emiles 3 Seater with Saddle tanks
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On a 1-3 Seater I prefer sattle tanks. Boat gets shorter length
>>>>>
>>>>> and much mors stable on the surface with persons on the deck. .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is another boat near Hannover: Lars Boat Comet
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgKKrghP5g
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vbr Carsten Rostock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>>>>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub for 2 pexople
>>>>>
>>>>> Datum: 2016-07-16T14:09:38+0200
>>>>>
>>>>> Von: "Kamil Żebrowski via Personal_Submersibles" <
>>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>>>>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, I am from Poland. Nice to know, i will contact with him. Thanks
>>>>> for info. It will be good opportiunity to check how it looks like to dive;)
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