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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch



Brian,

I'm a little busy at the moment, but if I can figure a way to scan that single blueprint into psubs, I'll do so. Jon probably has a way. I just haven't talked to him about it. Otherwise, I'll get a copy and send it to you (which is probably easier).

Vance



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian V. Ryder <brian@subatlantic.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 4:53 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch

I have to agree with you on that I have spent many hours behind a computer screen looking at the images from the High def cameras on the ROV and you can never see enough it’s just not the same I can’t wait to be there in PRV2 and see it firsthand I am envious of your time spent below and the things you have seen firsthand, on another note I remember a conversation a while back and you had mentioned having some info on a K1000 that you where helping design with Captain Kittredge would it be possible to see it? I am looking to build one personally and that would be a great one I believe what a great world we live in a sub at work to get paid to play with and one at home, My Girlfriend said to me you build a sub and I am out of here!  I never knew it was going to be that easy, glad she can’t see my email LOL
 
Regards
Brian V. Ryder
 
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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 6:12 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch
 
If I wanted to look through a camera, I'd build an ROV.
Vance
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Hinzey <ghambit7@gmail.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch
My opinion of the optical technology is that is has far greater value in eliminating the need for expensive acrylic windows or spheres.  I sometimes wonder why people spend so much time trying to figure out how to install portholes when it's WAY easier and you get way more information from a standalone external camera system.  Everything from FLIR, optical, radar, etc. can be viewed.  Not to mention increased visibility in dark or obscured waters.
 
Shawn
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:45 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch
 
  The last dance by David Bartsch 
 
 
    There are turning points in submarine history that effect a large numbers of people. One case in point was the shift to nuclear power. Gone was an era of U.S. diesel supremacy. The lessons learned from years of war seemed lost to the search for an unlimited power source.
    We Americans could now project our presence to any corner of the globe with ease but...
 
    One fact remains and is undisputable...impossible is it to detect a diesel submarine that is submerged while running on its batteries. All a third world country needs to do to become a serious local threat would be to acquire a simple diesel electric submarine and patrol it in its own territorial waters.
 
    In researching periscope history and future developments I see yet another turning point. The newest periscope technology relies heavily on camera advances such that a periscope thru hull is no longer required or desired. "Dancing with the grey lady" may soon become a thing of the past. I saw Cuba while looking thru such an optical periscope. This terminology referred to the use of a periscope for surface contact observations.
    With the advent of camera technology, the need for optical visual observations will soon become a thing of the past. Cameras can zoom in closer and make use of various filters to enhance ones viewing ability beyond that of regular visual optics.
    Without the need for periscope thru hulls, the requirment is no more to have the control or attack center in the upper area of the sub. This attack center can now be on the middle level where space is more abundant making more room for additional plotting and fire control equipments. Training the viewable scope is now joy stick and computer controlled.
    Although in its infancy as only a few more advanced submarines are so equipped, I see the end of an era approaching...
 
    I wish only that I could dance with this grey lady just more time...
 
                                                                                                                                           David Bartsch

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