Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch

[irox <irox@ix.netcom.com>]

There is something about "being there" that makes a huge difference.
Sitting in a boat operating an ROV sounds fun, but I am still
sitting in a boat.  Sitting in a submarine with no view ports
is some how a better because I am there, even if I can't touch
anything and all my data comes from external sensors and cameras.

This week is the 50th anniversary of the Trieste dive to the
the bottom of Challenger Deep.  One of the ultimate going there
just to be there journeys (for only 20 minutes!).

 - Rent a DVD
 - Remote Robot
 - Going there. <<<<---- I'll take this one.

Cheers,
  Ian.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Wallace <jonw@psubs.org>
>Sent: Apr 15, 2010 8:41 PM
>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The last dance by David Bartsch
>
>
>I think that can be explained rather easily as "the human experience".  
>Football can be viewed on TV with far better views of the action and 
>even replay, yet people still pay lots of money to go to the games in 
>person.  You can find all kinds of photos and video of the Grand Canyon 
>on the internet, yet people still spend thousands of dollars to go see 
>it in person.  In a submarine, you are already one level removed from 
>the environment by having a steel shell separating you from the water.  
>Removing all viewports and relying on cameras moves you back another 
>level to the point that you might be justified in questioning the 
>rationale for building a sub in the first place since you can just watch 
>underwater footage on Discovery, National Geographic, etc.
>
>However, you make a good point about relative simplicity of cameras 
>compared to viewports.  Perhaps a compromise would be one main viewport 
>(conning tower dome) and all other forward/side/reverse viewing by 
>camera.  More viewports could be added later if they were desired.
>
>Jon
>
>
>
>Shawn Hinzey wrote:
>> My opinion of the optical technology is that is has far greater value 
>> in eliminating the need for expensive acrylic windows or spheres.  I 
>> sometimes wonder why people spend so much time trying to figure out 
>> how to install portholes when it's WAY easier and you get way more 
>> information from a standalone external camera system.  Everything from 
>> FLIR, optical, radar, etc. can be viewed.  Not to mention increased 
>> visibility in dark or obscured waters.
>>  
>> Shawn
>
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