RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hello; Design; Materials; & CIA drug smuggling

[Alex <spm2@nomad.ignorelist.com>]

I sorry to say this since it will likely take the mailing list off topic and to
politics and since this is a nice mailing list about personal submarines where
we share ideas. please DO NOT reply to this, I just want to throw out there.
You can reply to my email directly if you want to talk about it.

It's the CIA that imports most of the drugs in to the united States. I
think it's Something like 70% for cocaine. I believe it is mostly flown in. A
while back a governmnet owned / controlled plane crashed in Mexico and I think
it was carrying something like 4 tons of cocaine.[1] The FBI people who
contacted Psubs about the drug issue were probably well meaning people who are
down low in the ranks and do what they are told. There are real drug smugglers
who ship drugs in and the government wants to stop them, not to help the drug
problem, but because any drugs they sell is lost profit for the government.

I'm not saying anyone did anything wrong. I'm just saying this to make sure
everyone knows who the real drug dealers are. It's just good information to have
in the back of your mind whenever the issue of drugs comes up. From a purely 
logical perspective, when you help the government track down drug smugglers,
you're making the drug problem worse.

Again, I'm just throwing this out here. Please do your own research, I don't
want to start a discussion of it on the mailing list.

IF YOU REPLY, PLEASE REPLY TO ME DIRECTLY and not to the mailing list address.
You're welcome to email me about this if you want. I just don't want to take the
mailing list off topic with an issue like thas that can go on for a long time.

The Mexico link:
[1] http://tinyurl.com/mognxa
( http://current.com/items/88787561_cia-plane-crashes-in-mexico-a-story-with-a-
twist-in-the-tale.htm )

Alex

On 20-Sep-2009 Jay K. Jeffries wrote:
> TC,
> 
> There has been one commercial wood/fiber glass sub pressure hull built within
> the last 50 years.  They may have been others built to escape Soviet bloc
> countries but these were built for one-time/one-way trips.  The problem is
> defects that develop in the GRP and allow water to enter the wood core
> resulting in deterioration of the core.  When we speak of ambient subs, the
> hull is not built to be pressure resistant, only strong enough to support the
> shape and weight.  Most of the ambient subs built out of wood have a short
> life due to the afore mentioned water seepage.
> 
>  
> 
> The PSUB doesnâ??t feel that it is self-important.  The FBI has met with the
> organization, a briefing was given to a number of the members as to what to
> look for and requested that they be contacted upon our receipt of
> questionable enquiries.  Those that work with the Defense Department or
> Homeland Security do not take the threat of terrorists or drug cartel issues
> lightly.
> 
>  
> 
> The drug cartel has attempted to build I believe two larger subs with the
> help of Russian contacts but both were busted previous to launching.  The
> wood and fiberglass semi-submersibles are much easier to construct out in the
> middle of nowhere with little support.  They do not take a lot of design work
> or expertise to build.
> 
> R/Jay
> 
>  
> 
> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of T.C. Craig
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:56 PM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hello; Design; Materials; Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> PS - 
> Regarding the drug subs:  if what I propose would work as a submersible, then
> why are we even having this conversation? I was told that a wood and
> fiberglass submersible isn't feasible and yet you clearly believe the
> opposite to be true as many have already expressed their ill-conceived
> suspicions. 
> 
> I think this board is terribly self-important if it honestly believes that
> semi-submersible building drug cartels are lurking about on Psubs.org seeking
> advice. Given the sudden advancements in their technology, they're already
> paying a designer top dollar.  
> 

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