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To all psub wine-os
I've always thought that the inner plastic
bag that contains the wine in a 3 liter cardboard wine cask
would make a good emergency floatation device for
fishing; but would be even better for small subs.
You could roll it up (once emptied) stick rubber
bands around it & put it in your pocket.
A cord attached around the neck (of the bag) could
have a loop for your wrist on the other end.
While the sub is filling with water you blow into
the bag. This will expand to 24 liters from 200ft
so there should be a few breaths of air from it on
the way up. You would need to work the valve in
the process & avoid taking too many breaths in
the first 100ft.
I'll try it out when the weather gets warmer, its
the middle of winter down here.
It might be better than nothing & its
free.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:01
PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] escape from
sub
All the old WWII diesel boats had two rescue buoys that could
be released from the fore and aft torpedo rooms. They had a pretty substantial
1,200 ft (iirc) steel cable on a reel and the submarine end attached to a
collar that would center it over the escape trunk. The rescue camber could
follow the line down which would center it over the top hatch on the escape
trunk. The whole aft torpedo room was the escape trunk.
Here is the
arrangement from the old diesel boats, my boat the USS Torsk SS-423 (now the
museum boat in Baltimore) is the same arrangement.
http://www.maritime.org/tour/ftr-escape.php
The
top picture can be rotated in either axis.
Here is the operating
procedure...
http://www.maritime.org/escape.htm
Hard
to implement in a P-Sub!
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM, <ShellyDalg@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Greg. I believe ABS requires subs to be slightly positive buoyant
and most hi-dollar subs have the "power down" feature. The ability to
"hover" is advertised on some subs. It makes a lot of sense. The slight
difference in buoyancy could be regulated with the hard ballast tank if a
subber has the vertical thruster to maintain depth.
The thrusters on the K boats can be rotated to
vertical, right? Then with the motor in reverse, it pulls you down? I have
my two side thrusters set up like that, but it's probably not as convenient
as having a fixed vertical thruster. My first few sea trials will show what
works and what needs attention.
The released buoy and rescue line was
mentioned a while back. I think Dean was contemplating it, and Brent had a
few ideas on it too. That sounds like a pretty straightforward means of
affecting a rescue. If I remember correctly, the idea of a grapple hook and
"receiver " socket was discussed, with a cable leading the hook into the
socket.
I thought it would be pretty standard to have a
little buoy attached to the sub and you just kinda drag it around with you,
mostly so your surface crew can keep an eye on you. It wouldn't need to be
much, and the line would be small enough to just break off if it got tangled
in something. Maybe like some strong fishing line or something. Dean had a
good idea the other day on a little buoy that was just a turned down closet
rod with fishing line wrapped around it so when released it just floats up
and the fishing line un-spools off the rod. Simplicity at it's best.
Frank D.
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