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I found three other pictures I was looking for of push pull cable small planes rudder controls. The foot peddles in the blue ultra light are connected to the planes frame at there base. If you look closely you can see the cables connected to the top insides of the peddles, that then run back to the tail rudder. http://cid-5085d10eb6afe47c.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Rudder%20Push%20Pull%20Cable%20Actuation%20Options The second picture with foot peddles, had stiff rods connected to the base of the peddles which I believe just go to a bar behind the seat that is center bolted to the planes frame to keep let the pedals work together. I'll have to look at that plane again. Then about a third of the way up the foot pedals they are attached to a stiff rod. Then you have the cables attached at the top outside corners of the pedals. I'm not configuring mine like these, but it might give you guys some ideas. Regards, Szybowski " Inspiration may be a form of superconsciousness, or perhaps of subconsciousness - I wouldn't know. But I am sure it is the antithesis of self- consciousness." ~ Aaron Copland From: brenthartwig@hotmail.com To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Push Pull Cable Rudder Control Means Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:43:24 -0700 Greetings SMOMs, In looking at different ways to control my sub rudders, I have been considering using a push pull cabling and pulley system, since I need to make a few turns to get to my rudders. I've seen that many small planes control there rudder and other control surfaces in this manor. Here is an interesting example of how it was done on a set of Aerocet composite floats, for a Cessna. http://cid-5085d10eb6afe47c.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Rudder%20Push%20Pull%20Cable%20Actuation%20Options I might ever save a little money going this route, instead of using all the solid 316 SS rod and flat stock. Also the weight savings can be put into the drop weights. Szybowski |