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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] RFC - Radio communications for submersible dive operations
Brain,
Good luck on your Ham radio License!! I just passed my general and
extra exams, I PASSED! (N2RTS) Wow, a lot of work to get there. I
don't believe that most people would want to go to the trouble on
getting there amateur license.
I believe PSUBS RFC Standards should be easy for anyone to comply with.
And for the lucky PSUB's Members out there that are HAMS, we will just
have a different frequency to talk for fun.
Just my thoughts. I don't even have a working boat. It's still a pile
of parts... I'll talk from shore. Lol
Charlie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brian Cox
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:56 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] RFC - Radio communications for submersible
dive operations
I'm in the process of getting a Ham radio licence, I would love to talk
to
Carsten, Peter Madsen, or any other sub madman via sub to sub
communication
! There are a lot of new options in the way of Ham radio. There are
internet stations now that can relay signals clear across the world.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Dan. H.
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:31 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.or
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] RFC - Radio communications for submersible
dive operations
I don't have a marine radio in my sub. I just use a CB type walkie
talkie,
but I should have one and so should every boat. I think it's a good
idea
and I'll get one installed in my sub for next season.
Dan H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Keefer" <psubs2001@yahoo.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] RFC - Radio communications for submersible
dive
operations
> Hi Folks,
>
> This proposal orginally went out on 22 Sep 2007.
> Section 8 says you have 45 days to comment on this
> proposal. You have about 15 days left.
>
> Regards,
> Ray
>
>
>
> --- Jon Wallace <jon@psubs.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello psubbers,
>>
>> Below is an RFC regarding a new guideline to require
>> Marine Band (VHF)
>> radios in submersibles during dive operations,
>> particularly those involving
>> PSUBS.ORG. We would like your input. Hopefully the
>> text will format
>> correctly as part of the email and won't require
>> attachment as a file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> AUTHOR: Jon Wallace
>> ORGANIZATION: PSUBS.ORG
>> SUBJECT: Radio Equipment for Submersible Dive
>> Operations
>> RFC ID: PSUBS-RFC-20070001
>> Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>
>> ***************************
>> *** REQUEST FOR COMMENT ***
>> ***************************
>>
>> 1. Purpose.
>> To standardize the radio equipment to be used for
>> communication between
>> support personnel and submersible pilots while the
>> submersible is in
>> water, but surfaced.
>>
>> 2. Introduction.
>> Surface communication with submersibles is an
>> important safety element
>> that helps both the sub-pilot and ship/shore support
>> personnel coordinate
>> pre-dive and post-dive activities. This is
>> particularly true in cases
>> where multiple submersibles are within close
>> quarters of each other and
>> participating in an organized event such as the
>> PSUBS convention. The
>> 2006 and 2007 PSUBS conventions hosted dive
>> operations with multiple
>> submersibles of varying types and capabilities.
>> Managing these events
>> in the interests of safety proved to be difficult
>> due to differences in
>> equipment, and in some cases, no communication
>> equipment at all. It is
>> to the benefit of everyone involved if a
>> standardized means of
>> communication can be implemented for future events.
>>
>> 3. Proposal.
>> A) Marine Band (VHF) radios shall be the standard
>> radio device used for
>> communications when a submersible is surfaced
>> upon any body of water.
>> B) As part of the pre-dive planning, the specific
>> channel used for
>> communications shall be determined and agreed
>> upon by all parties.
>> C) Use of such radios shall be in accordance with
>> laws and regulations
>> within the jurisdiction of the dive site.
>>
>> 4. Justification.
>> A) Marine Band (VHF) radios are reasonably priced
>> units that are accepted
>> as standard equipment on most surface vessels
>> throughout the world.
>> B) Marine Band (VHF) radios include frequencies
>> that allow access to
>> weather reports. This can be important
>> information for diving
>> operations.
>> C) Marine Band (VHF) radios include a specific
>> emergency channel (16)
>> that is monitored by all seagoing traffic not
>> involved in any
>> ship-to-ship or ship-to-shore communication, and
>> the US Coast Guard
>> within the United States coastal waters.
>> D) Marine Band (VHF) radios are available as either
>> base units or hand-held
>> units which allows sub-owners flexibility when
>> incorporating the radio
>> into their existing submersible or designing
>> their submersible.
>> E) Marine Band (VHF) radios can be operated
>> directly off of internal power
>> within the submersible, or from independent
>> batteries or internal power
>> in the case of hand-held units.
>> F) Marine Band (VHF) radios have transmission power
>> that exceeds most
>> other non-license type communication devices,
>> thereby fostering clear
>> communications.
>>
>> 5. Requirements.
>> None.
>>
>> 6. Dependencies.
>> None.
>>
>> 7. Enforcement.
>> This is a voluntary safety standard. However, if
>> this standard is adopted
>> by PSUBS.ORG, submersible owners/pilots who do not
>> have the capability to
>> perform surface communication via FCC approved
>> Marine Band (VHF)
>> frequencies will not be allowed to dive at PSUBS.ORG
>> sponsored events.
>> Those submersibles that do not meet this
>> communication criteria are still
>> encouraged to attend and participate in the static
>> display portion of the
>> event.
>>
>> 8. Comment Deadline.
>> Comments will no longer be accepted 45 days after
>> the first posting of this
>> proposal.
>>
>> 9. Comment Evaluation.
>> All comments will be evaluated for potential
>> inclusion in the standard
>> within 30 days after the comment deadline.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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