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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS and FBI
Jon, welcome to the future big brother is watching you...as the person
on this forum most exposed to that kind of stuff - i hate it here we
go again - finally i am austrian living in COLOMBIA - (here the
computer clicks in...click..) building long range capable private
submarines (click) out of concrete which is not easly detectable by
magnetic sensors (click) . Ok we have the audience so let me tell you
what some of you guys have to expect because it already happened to
me. You will get a house search by a team of 10 drug agency agents
firmed by a judge. What will be checked for is: drugs, arms, bomb
stuff. You will be interviewed how you earn your money, how much value
is your property so that mr smith 1-10 can clearly calculate if or if
not you are operating the "famous colombian drug sub fleet" beloved
child of any "theoric threat report" . This will happen months after
your neighbours warned you that a suspicious Mr.Smith - is asking
about you what you do - where you live who is with you - when you
leave the house...etc...
Keep your mrs calm do not lock your door - they would take it as
"crime in progress" so get violent - colaborate with authorities in
the way peter suggests - take it with humour. Finally they are just
doing their job. Sniffing submariner, rocket, and airplane community
is part of it.
I apreciate that jon adopts a open communication policy on that - i am
surprised that kittrige subs with the obvious long range incapacity
are now included into the game - in any case take a proactive policy
finally you have nothing to hide. This is why i aproached colombian
navy with my plans years ago. The key is just be a open book for
everyone.
My educated guess of next on the list: peter, sorry you earned it -
carsten when you take it to water, it is just another aspect of
building a submarine...
Kindest Regards,
Wil,
(concretesubmarine.com)
Quoting Peter Madsen <peter@submarines.dk>:
Sirs,
I don´t like goverments and I don't like the rules and that prevent me
from building rigid airships and manned spacecrafts or airplanes or
anything else - having said that...
Since we dream of, sometimes build and even operate personal submarines
- for the technical challenge, for the recreational effects or social
ditto - western goverments will essentially not wish to stop our hobby.
In fact - the more they know about us the more they will like us and
realize that we are not really those smugglers or terrorists they are
looking for.
I used to work with amateur experimental rocketry before I made the
shift to manned submersibles. That meens working with solid, hybrid or
liquid propellant rocket motors, the rockets themselves and their
guidance and control systems. Building these things from scratch. Of
cause this is an other potentially dangerous technology - but it was
clear that the more we worked with it openly - the lesser legal
problems did we have. The very best was to be on TV - since no
goverment or police official could believe that a terrorist group would
develop weapons of mass destruction on live TV.
In short -be open to the authorities - get some PR - just to disarm any
ideas of what the mysterious yellow torpedo in your garage is all about.
Essentially - intelligence organizations need to be told exactly where
to look, and with what to look to se much else than what they expect to
see. Lack of imagination is their biggest problem.
Lets help them.
Regards,
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