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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SCUBA Limits



Phil,

Some of the parts and systems you manufacture and/or have manufactured for you, and to your specs, can be a great resource for the PSUBers. Since they in most cases, are already proven to be robust and work well in stressed conditions, and you've already payed for the designing, testing, and fabrication of jigs to make them and what not. Things like complete hatches, tightly packed life support systems, domes, view ports, etc...  Some of those things, I would guess you could make available to the PSUBers for a reasonable price and still make a reasonable profit. Even better yet, let us come down and sweep your floors in trade. I build custom furniture, and if I can make more then one of some thing I already finished the design worked up for, and I can make more then one at a time, is allot faster and cheaper, as I'm sure you are well aware.

I look forward to seeing some of your designs on the Discovery channel. Thanks for giving use the heads up. Having big wigs (as one might say) drop by from time to time makes this forum very enriching. I would be curious to see some pics of you, when you first got started building subs, to see how you got started. We do love are dirt covered PSUBer pictures. ; )'

Regards,

Brent

Just Remember Guys,     "Amateurs built the Ark.
                                                                Professionals built the Titanic."

Just a little tongue and cheek Phil


From:  "Jon Wallace" <jon@psubs.org>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject:  RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SCUBA Limits
Date:  Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:34:24 -0400
>
>Phil,
>
>It would be "attractive" to a large segment of home-builders if it was
>priced comparatible to the cost of constructing a K-350 or similar sized
>submersible ($15 to $20k).  However, there will always be a smaller segment
>that will find it "attractive" at a higher price just because it is:
>
>a) different
>b) a kit with preformed parts
>c) a nuytco product
>
>I consider the home-built market a "niche" market already, but if the cost
>of a completed nuytco kit can't compete with the cost of completed K-350,
>then you'll find you're selling to an even smaller "niche" market.  You have
>to also remember, that many (I won't say most because I don't know for sure)
>of the people who build their own subs, do so because they enjoy the
>challenge of construction as well as operation.  I hope you consider your
>idea seriously and think about coming out with some kind of kit for the
>home-built market.  It would be nice to have something from Nuytco as an
>available option.  Which leads to the question of whether you could take it
>one step further and market completed, fully-functional "plastic"
>deepworkers for around $80-$100k.
>
>Jon
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Phil Nuytten
>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:53 PM
>To: INTERNET:personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] SCUBA Limits
>
>         Recently, I  had a thought ( always dangerous, our guys tell me)
>What about just selling the 'plastic' (or lightweight mild steel) hulls,
>battery pods, domes, etc., as a kind of a kit. Sorta like K350's but
>jazzier looking (in my biased opinion) and I guess the question that I
>didn't research any further was: what would it have to sell for in order to
>be attractive to home builders?
>Any thoughts? (I can hear Vance thinking 'Jeez, are you nuts? don't you
>have enough problems now?)
>Regards
>Phil Nuytten
>
>
>
>
>
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