Good Morning Jay,
The expedition sounds very interesting and perhaps a little fun to. I hope you guys get to go and find some thing substantial to boot. With regards to historical records and other materials I usually like the idea of scanning all the documents and taking tons of pictures of every thing else and putting the items in more them one place on the planet. So that if one place is routed with fire, theft, water, etc. there is still allot left to see. Perhaps allot or all of the above has already been done, just my thoughts. I know it takes allot of work, care and money, and I don't like to suggest others should do a bunch of work without pitching in myself. So perhaps I should see if Jeff Lake would be interested in any help from me or others in the group in this regard. Do you think that would be ok with Jeff?
Of late we have talked about a scholarship from PSUB's, and perhaps that scholarship or one like it could be used to work on the Simon Lake data and materials. I was really hoping there would be more detailed pictures and data on the Argonauts, but that is what it is. I believe that some quite nice model's could still be made from the little data at hand. They wouldn't be exact of course, but I think interesting none the less. I've been learning how to overlap materials like the materials used on the Aurgonauts in CAD and cutting holes for rivits and placing rivits on compound curved surfaces. So it's getting interesting.
One would think that the History Channel, Discovery Channel, or the like would be all over this with there great interest in war history and interesting history in general.
Regards,
Brent
"Idealism increases in direct proportion to one's distance from the problem." - John Galsworthy
From: "Jay K. Jeffries" <bottomgun@mindspring.com>
To: "'Brent Hartwig'" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 3D Fabrication at home
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:27:02 -0400
Brent,
The Simon Lake Museum is in poor shape due to inadequate facilities and no funding. Since I last visited some time ago, two hurricanes caused water damage to many of the records held. Jeff Lake (Simon?s grandson) is living off of what he can make selling off documents with Simon?s signature and other items out of the collection. Unfortunately, there are no drawings available in the collection (or in the National Archives) of Lake?s personal submarines to design accurate models from. Even most of the photographs are of poor quality. Would really like models of these subs.
I am trying to arrange a meeting with Jeff in late April to conduct research of the final resting place of Simon?s submersible Defender that was supposedly scuttled in the Long Island Sound. I am slated to be a member of the expedition that searches for the sub this summer.
Take care,
Jay
Respectfully,
Jay K. Jeffries
Andros Is., Bahamas
A skimmer afloat is but a submarine, so poorly built it will not float.
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brent Hartwig
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:52 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 3D Fabrication at home
I was very happy with the results of my prototypes made from using the SLS (Selective Laser Sintering) DuraForm polyamide (PA) for it's great detail and for testing my living hinge. I could sand it really smooth and paint it as well. The SLA prototypes didn't look near as good to me. The prices have come down quite a bit now that there is allot more competition out there. A guy could take his CAD models of PSUBS and scale them down to make models out of them using the SLS parts to make molds off of. I was thinking it would be fun to make a couple of model kits of the Simon Lake submarines, like the Argonauts to help support a Simon Lake Museum.
From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 3D Fabrication at home
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:56:03 -0800
>For all you CAD/CAM types out there . . .
>
>http://www.physorg.com/news92328869.html
>
>Enjoy
>
>Rick Lucertini
>Vancouver, Canada
>
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