Hi Rick,
You've just touched upon (one) of my reasons for having abandoned the ambient design in favor of a K350 based 1atm.....our area wrecks and artificial reefs!
That helicopter pad on her stern is a planned destination for me... :), providing of course, another storm doesn't reorient her again. As you have no doubt read, there can be some current there, so the K350 as is needs power and buoyancy modification but, the wreck is within tow able range.
Spiegel Grove was reefed relatively recently, and I have not had the pleasure but, over the years I've visited many of the shallower wrecks in the area. It's a real treat, and there are many within the no decompression limits and many more a bit deeper but, still under 200'.
Now if you really want to salivate a bit...here is another new one...the USS Oriskany on the Gulf side up the coast toward the panhandle.
http://www.mbtdivers.com/Oriskany%20Misc.htm
"Top Gun" fans will remember the Oriskany as the ship Mavericks instructor "Viper" referred to in the movie......."Yea...I flew with your old man...VF__ the Oriskany, he was one heroic son of a bitch that one!"
This one is a bit of a problem for a psub surface support wise, as she lies some 20 miles offshore in 200' of water....but nice clear water it is on a white sand bottom. The conditions here are apparently quite nice and one would be tempted to actually "penetrate" the hull via the huge hangar bay doors.
However, this would violate some predetermined "rules" of operation that I plan to adopt as modeled after WHOI for Alvin........
http://www.whoi.edu/marops/vehicles/alvin/userman_operations.html
....Substitute "Octopus" for Alvin and 350' for the depths, but I do believe Alvin violated this rule of overhangs for the "Titanic" when she ventured under the overhanging stern section to get a look at the screws. I suspect with proper surface support and "local" knowledge, the Oriskany's hangar bay may be doable as a "once in a lifetime opportunity".
If you want real clear water Rick, what Jay has over there in the Bahamas makes what we have look like a sewer!
From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Storm and SUB
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:51:09 -0700
>I've loosely followed the artificial reef thing up here but never realised
>you guys had one in Key Largo. A psub is absolutely necessary to dive this
>thing: over 500 feet long? In clear water? Wow . . .
>
>You do realise, of course, I now have one more compelling reason to build my
>sub.
>
>I helped "de-complicate" the HMCS Chaudiere, a local artificial reef, -
>pulling electrical wires, etc.
>
>The SpiegelGrove, and other wrecks, would be an absolute treat for psubbers,
>given that the vis in some of these waters is excellent. I can imagine
>skimming over the superstructures (ducking cables, booms, gun barrels . .
>. )
>
>Has anyone dived this wreck from the PSUBS group? In a sub?
>
>Rick L
>Vancouver
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Reef_Society_of_British_Columbia
>http://www.artificialreef.bc.ca/OtherReefs/index.htm
>http://www.spiegelgrove.com/
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 3:04 AM
>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Storm and SUB
>
>
> > Hi Fanta,
> >
> > To demonstrate the power of nature and her ocean, this ship
> >
> > http://www.ecophotoexplorers.com/SpiegelGrove.asp
> >
> > Was sunk as a reef on her starboard side, then righted by Hurricane Dennis
> > and is now on her keel.
> >
> > She is 510' long and 6,888 tons.
> >
> > While the Navy may very well dodge seamounts while cruising under a storm,
> > the above example rules it out for psubs.
> >
> > There was a fellow who rode out Hurricane Andrew at anchor off Elliot Key,
>I
> > don't believe they ever found him.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > >From: Fanta <fanta590@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Storm and SUB
> > >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:34:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Hello everyone,
> > > I have a question: are there someone here use a sub 1 atm for avoid a
> > >storm or depression tropical, ouragan?
> > >
> > > If you have an experience such that, please tell me: a sub 1 atm with
>a
> > >snooker can support a storm grade 4 or 3?
> > >
> > > In theory, A Sub dive dynamic with a good snooker, it can past a
>storm,
> > >, can't it? how is the truth?
> > >
> > > Please drop for me if you know, thank you
> > > Fanta
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Love and Peace, God bless you
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call
> > >rates.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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