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[PSUBS-MAILIST] Welcome
Welcome Ross!
Steve McQueen
Indianapolis, IN
Quoting Ross Donato <hawnsling@yahoo.com>:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I just joined the group. My name is Ross Donato and I live in Ewa Beach,
> Hawaii. That's on the South side of the island of Oahu, West of Pearl Harbor
> and Honolulu. I am a certified scuba diver but I prefer free diving and
> spear fishing with a Hawaiian sling. To me, that is more of a challenge and
> more rewarding.
>
> I have been reading your web pages and looking at the pictures for more
> than a year, ever since a friend who has connections with the University told
> me about you. As you may know, UH operates small deep diving submarines and
> has made some important finds like the Japenese minisub from World War 2.
>
> So, a little bit about me. I have worked with machines and tools for most
> of my life. I worked on mostly cars and boats, like that. In fact that is
> what I do for a living, but it is also a hobby for me. And with the big
> four-oh just around the corner I was thinking "why not build a submarine?"
> So I am here to learn what I can, and I will help out where I can, too.
>
> I see you talking about the Rhino CAD program. I have used it before and
> it is very easy to learn. Even better is you can get it for free to try it
> out. Use the link Julian gave below to get to the Rhino home page. Look at
> the top and see the word "downloads". Click that and you get to choose
> "Rhino evaluation". That's it. You can download it for free and use it. I
> think you get like twenty-five saves or something like that before it quits.
> But then you can always download it again. It is a good program, simple to
> learn, and free. I hope this is of some help to someone.
>
> So, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know of my interests. If
> there is anyone willing to help me get started I will appreciate any help I
> can get. I think I understand how a submarine works and I can draw my
> designs but right now I am having trouble trying to figure out where to start
> when designing one I might build. How do I know how thick the steel must be,
> how much it all must weigh, and like that?
>
> Are there any books that explain how to figure that out that are not only
> for the slide rule crowd? That would help me a lot to start. I am a high
> school graduate and not too bad at math and science but I am no Einstein when
> it comes to that. But I hear it isn't really so tough to learn and you don't
> have to be a big math whiz to do it.
>
> So, I throw my net and see what I get. Any help getting started with the
> numbers, you guys out there?
>
> Mahalo in advance.
>
> Ross Donato
>
>
> Julian Ford <rjford@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Another good 3d modelling package is Rhino, Very easy to use, and
> powerful...yet also priced
> for home users.
>
> http://www.rhino3d.com/
>
> Regards,
> Julian Ford
> Delphinus Technologies
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shawn H.
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Design Software
>
>
> Catia V5... Solidworks... Autodesk Inventor
>
> But, they all WILL bankrupt you. Autocad Inventor I believe is the
> cheapest. There are some pretty good 2D Cad programs you can get for free if
> you have no need for 3D. A good one I used was called "Draft IT". If you
> simply need a good 2D drafting program I wouldnt bother with Autocad, might
> as well get a free program. For 3D, nothing beats Catia, that's why pretty
> much our entire modern fleet of military ships and planes are built with it.
> Alas, it's a $14,000 program.
>
> Biggest problem with design software is simply the training involved. To
> give you an idea: certified Catia drafters make starting salaries of
> $65,000+/year... just to draw parts.
>
> The best "alternative" to the expensive 3D Cad software is "Alibre". It's
> actually free for the most part, but a fully licensed version is still only
> like $300 I think. It's a newer system but the support is there simply
> because of the free "trial". Also cool because it's designed to be used
> online so you can collaborate with other designers.
>
> Shawn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Perkel
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:01 AM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Design Software
>
>
>
>
>
> The time has come to graduate from MS Paint and Word as my primary design
> software.
> Any suggestions? Try not to bankrupt me though! :)
> Thanks
> Joe
>
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