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[PSUBS-MAILIST] Launching A Sub



Myles,
 
To answer your questions, 
 
I need about five feet of water at forty feet from the waters edge to launch "Persistence."  Many lake launches flatten out at three of four feet then later on go down but it's to far out by then.  I just can't launch there.  Most larger trailerable boats don't need that much water to launch so many launches aren't real deep.
 
I have had to use the extension rod every launch.  You have to line the trailer up well before putting the fifth wheel (tire on the road) down and hooking on the extension rod.  My wife found out the hard way that the trailer becomes a cart and isn't a trailer anymore when the fifth wheel is down and hooked to the truck with the extension rod.  She watched the sub trailer come up along side of the truck through the passenger side window when she made a left turn while going to park the empty trailer after launching.  No ham done we couldn't bend back on the spot.
 
My trailer is only about nine inches from the road to the deck top. There were times that I had it hang up on boat launches where they were washed out from propwash of power boats powering up on their trailers.  There were also times my nine inch deck height was to high to let me float the sub off.  If the launch ramp is hard surfaced my truck pulls it up and out with no problem.  But the time I hung it up it took two four wheel drive trucks to drag it out.  I found that in most cases there is always someone there willing to help just for the rights to say they assisted in pulling a submarine out of it's predicament on the boat launch, in the bar afterwards.  I pull it out most times without even putting my truck in four wheel drive.  Don't forget, when starting out of the water, your truck isn't pulling the total weight up the boat ramp. Your sub is just barely on the deck.  As you pull out it gets heavier, but your already rolling. 
 
"lookie loos" aren't much of a problem.  If you want to avoid them you have to launch on off days, or at off times.  But for the most part the biggest bother with spectators are the hundreds of questions you get as your politely trying to answer them and also get the sub launched of retrieved at the same time.  By now, most of my tag along crew know the correct answers to the same questions that get asked every time and answer them for me.  There have been several times I recruited one or two spectators for assistance.  Most are eager to help.
 
Hope that helps, Dan H.
 
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With Persistence, have you ever run into difficulty launching or retrieving it at your typical lake boat launch ?  (Other than the "lookie loos" getting in the way).  I'm curious as to how much water depth you need to get Persistence off the trailer.  The extended pole idea for the trailer is fantastic.  One of my concerns is being able to lug a 6000 lb brute OUT (I'm not worried about getting it into the water)  of the launch without getting stuck or losing traction.  I've got a 4x4, which should help.  Any comments on that particular aspect of running a sub ?
 
Myles.