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    Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:33 
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    Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Composite Hull 
    Calculations
    
    Ok... I've long been gathering info. etc. of 
    prospective hull designs for a particular style of "submarine" I'm thinking 
    of at the very least drawing plans for.  Issue I'm having at this time 
    of course is strength.  I've opted to use a contractor to build a 
    good Carbon-steel shell for me (my father is in the vacuum tank business), 
    as they can be relatively inexpensive.  HOWEVER, it gets pricey when 
    you get anything over 1/8" thickness.  1/4" seems the sweet spot, 
    although I've seen 3/8" as well.   Even still, this isnt enough, 
    and typically tank manufacturers dont use 537 steel in their 
    construction.  
     
    My PLAN was to simply use the shell as a 
    template to lay carbon fiber over.  The more I thought about it, the 
    more it made sense.  Not only would the CF protect the steel from the 
    elements, but it's also stronger, albeit ridiculously buoyant.  The 
    other negative is you cant get adequate EM signals out of anything made from 
    the stuff, so this means many through-hulls :(     All 
    in all, a good tradeoff if you asked me.   My ideas to get around 
    the buoyancy issue is simply designing it as a lead-lined double hull.  
    In my mind, I'm thinking super easy to construct although there are many 
    steps (the nature of composite construction), but ridiculously strong and 
    reliable.  As well, it could be more easily broken-down for xport or 
    drydock.  The outer-hull would be ambient.
     
    Anyways, I'm having trouble dealing with the 
    darn math.  I have HullCalc, but it's only setup for steel and I'm 
    having trouble even getting specs. on various steel chemistry that I could 
    easily plug into the program.  Does anyone know of a good all-around 
    prog. to calculate this stuff?  And where's a good place to find the 
    material specs. to plug into the programs?
     
    Thanks
    Shawn