Compare the difference between the two below links written by different reporters and see how scuba divers who
 
find wrecks are demonized and called "theives" and "plunderers". 
 
 
 
found it when the U.S. Navy didn't try or give a care enough to search for over 60 years!
 
 
The only theives and plunderers 
 
are the state and federal governments. The state of Florida illegally held Mel Fisher's Atochia treasure until a federal court 
 
made them give it back. Of course then the federal government took a piece of it too since although it was
 
not in state waters and the state was
due NO cut of it, it WAS in federal waters. So the feds  got their
chunk for doing NOTHING!
 
Diver's risk their lives and fortunes in recovering sunken treasures and artifacts and instead of it being "finders, keepers"
 
which it should be, the state and federal governments think we should get nothing for our efforts. In fact recently the law
 
has been changed to disallow us to keep ANYTHING found on Florida state submerged lands without a permit. Of course
 
to get that permit you have to give the state a piece of your treasure for them doing NOTHING. Our Navy also takes from
 
divers. If you bring up ANYTHING from a U.S. Navy wreck, plane or ship, they will charge you with theft of gevernment property
 
and confiscate it, fine you, and even
give you jail time. Yet the Navy is allowed by our courts to have it
both ways. What I mean by
 
that is....the Navy says it NEVER
relenquishes ownership of its wrecks and therefore they still own them
and you cannot recover them.
 
The supreme court has upheld this. Yet
in court cases that fishermen have brought against the Navy for damage
to their fishing boats
 
from exposed parts of Navy ships sticking out of the water, the Navy has successfully argued that the Navy ABANDONED those ships
 
and the courts have sided with the
Navy on that as well! So if the Navy wants something you find and bring
up, they say they NEVER
 
abandon any of their wrecks, but if you sue them for damage to your boat from one of their wrecks, they say the ABANDONED it!
 
It is illogical that our courts let
them get away with this, but they do. Next is the state archaeologists
who do not want anyone but
 
themselves finding and recovering
artifacts. They argue that only THEY are qualified and the rest of us
are "amateurs", "theives" and
 
"plunders" unless we have an
archaeological diploma hanging on the wall and work as a state
archaeologist. The truth is they are jealous
 
of the finds found by the private
sector and want to stop anyone from operating but them so they can
write books, become famous, get
 
credit for ALL the finds, and most
importantly....get further grants. All the above disgusts me and
reading that Largato article just brought it home
 
again just how discriminated against
divers are. Wasn't the Hunley a war grave? They didn't hesitate to
bring that up. The jap minisub
 
recently found in Hawaii is the same
thing, yet there is a big political flap about it being a war grave and
shouldn't be brought up. It looks to me
 
like a submarine is a war grave when
the federal government or state wants it to be and it somehow becomes
an archaeological dig when they
 
want it to be! So in effect, there is
no law, just whatever the federal or state government or the Navy says
and makes up as they go along.
 
Sorry for the ranting, the
injustice of it all just really bothers me. If it was up to me, every
sub ever lost would be brought up and put in a museum
 
so they could be preserved to be seen
by future generations instead of being allowed to rot into iron oxide
dust which is what will happen to them if unrecovered.
 
We could bury any crew remains in the
ground with full military honors (like we did the Hunley crew) and then
call THAT a war grave.
 
Bill.