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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Complaints about submersibles visiting the Titanic



Im a tree hugger!, and I'll do my darndest to stop humanity from turning beautiful yellowstone into a plastic los angeles! Get away you ecological vandals!!

Unfortunatly, I can't claim to be a 'wealthy' treehuggers. That is a stereotype that is a new one for me!!

Peace man, I have to tie-dye my pants now.


No Periscope wrote:

    It was only a matter of time before this subject became a
    significant problem and a deep concern of mine personally.  I've
    gone through the comments from each of you and made notes for
    each.  I've deleted portions but have kept the meat of your
    comments.  I don't think I've taken anything out of context and
    agree with each for the most part. To keep it simple to understand
    I've made my comments in *BOLD*.... Dave

     1st hand although the pillaging of the wreck and landing on it's
    deck is unforgivable, it is still a grave site after all. People
    who vandalize, and people who let people vandalize, don't have
    rights to monuments. I personally don't feel that the titanic
    falls under this category, but there are plenty who do.

    *I don't believe that a grave site is a significant issue.  Any
    one there is dead and couldn't care less.  People have been giving
    tours by bus around grave yards in Hollywood for ages and no one
    ever says a dam thing about it. It's even publicly advertised. The
    grave yards even have roads so it's easily accessible to the
    public. The Titanic is not a monument and is just a big ship that
    got built, sank, and is now being visited.  Submarine tours to the
    Titanic or any other wreck including the Edmond Fitzgerald is just
    a way of making money for those of us still alive.  And it's no
    different than taking a bus ride through any Hollywood grave
    yard.  The United States is becoming a place that is operated by
    Lawyers and Tree Huggers and any time some one figures out a way
    to make a living, some one else gets jealous and wants to put an
    end to it.  And it's almost always a Lawyer or an already
wealthy Tree Hugger. *

     Steven Mills wrote:
    Carsten,  also we are perceived as a liability and safety
    risk. Nonetheless, our concern should be how restrictive will it
    become for us with future legislation.

    Steve

    *Again this is correct but there will always be those that go
    where no one has gone before.  There will always be those that ask
    "Why" and those that ask "Why Not".  There will always be those
    that make something happen, those that watch things happen, and
    those that ask what happened? The legal system that is so deeply
    entrenched in the US is spreading to other countries and seems to
    be a disses out of control.  This has created it's own anti virus
    which forces* *or requires* *some to travel outside the boundaries
    of the road most traveled.  Activities have always occurred at
    night and will continue as long as necessary and loop holes will
be found by those that look for them. *

    Ian, my fife cents - Titanic is made from mild steel and will be
    gone in 50-100 years completly - with or without submersibles..
    Better they visit them now and so often they can - make pictures,
    videos and raise something for public museum porpose before she is
    a debris
    field of flat plates. I can not believe that a submersible touch
    the deck with almost zero bouancy can badly damage a stable wreck
    - and a unstable wreck will go in a couple of years anyway. In the
    baltic sea - now virtual every wreck in german waters is protect
    by law for archelogical reason - even the newer ones..  there is
    no lost information on board of the Titanic make it worth to
    special-protect this wreck so that only siencetific can visit
    here. Its great history for shure - but a archaeological site ?

    best regards Carsten

    *Your absolutely right Carsten, the reality of any submersible
    causing damage to a ship that sank in 12,000 feet of water is a
    crazy joke.  It seems to me that the real damage happened years
    ago when they ran into that giant ice cube floating around in the
    Atlantic. It was a total loss, what are these people thinking,
    have they forgotten how it got there. These people are stupid,
    when a car ends up in the junk yard, you can scratch the paint and
    nobody sys any thing.  Even though someone may have died in the
wreck. *
     Although must of people on the list won't get a drive a submarine
     to see the Titanic, this is a high profile monument and when people
     claim that it's damaged by submersibles, it gives all submersibles
     a bad name...

     Ian.

    *I wouldn't worry about it to much Ian, I feel that most adults
    have gotten to a place that they give the media little to no
    credit and realize that it's just a bad late show.  And as for the
    written press, any one that believes what they read in a news
    paper is never going to make an important difference in any one
    else's life any way.  All they can do is slow us down.*

*Dave* **
    g

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