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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Weeds growing up around Dreams (was submersible speedboat)
Doug,
I think you posed a significant question.
I want to reference and address a recent topic on ROVs into this and
offer a suggestion. [ BTW, I was disappointed over that issue on ROVs
as a legitimate topic in regards to Julian and Steve B. That should not
have
been a subject of contention or topic to be discussed offlist ! ]
I would hate to think that after all the time, money, and effort put into
building a sub that it would end up as a flowerbox, roadside marker,
or sit gathering dust and rust ! Especially, after it has been certified
and taken out for tests and excursions and proven to be seaworthy.
"Your" sub has the potential as a research tool for a school or
scientific
organization. It can be retrofitted as an ROV / UAV with instument and
sensor package. Since it will be unmanned vessel there will not the
usual safety risks.
Also, I am wondering if there is a misconception that ROVs are these
*small*
probes which isn't true. There are ROVs the size of K350s and larger
with
manipulators that perform a variety of tasks and scientific data
collection.
Bottom line, one could donate their psub to a college/university and let
their
engineering dept. make the modifications. Or, make the mods yourself
and extend your self-education into another area. There are certainly
members
in this forum with the knowledge and experience to help.
The sub could be *sold* after turning it into an ROV thereby getting
part, all, or
more money from all that work and personal investment.
Anyway, my 2.5 cents worth...hate to see a sub waste away.
--Steve
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:28:45 EDT DJACKSON99@aol.com writes:
>
> Weeds growing up around Dreams
>
> Someone wrote me a couple of weeks ago and asked "...do other sub
> owners you
> may know find the time to use their subs regularly or does it tend
> to be for
> a short time after they are first constructed?"
>
> My reply was "I think most home built subs that get built, are
> used a
> couple of years and then just sit in the garage, and then in the
> side yard, and
> finally as a road sign for a dive shop or worse. That would be a
> good
> question to pose to the PSUB.org group. Let me know if you'd like
> me to do that for
> you.
>
> Frankly I recognize that this may be the fate of my own boat,
> however even
> if it were a near certainty, I would still be building it anyway.
> For me the
> reward in is the journey not just the destination. I have already
> learn a
> number of new things, as well as skills. Having taken a number of
> college and
> technical training classes, the cost of my sub at $12,000 has been
> money well
> spent even if I only value it for the learning experience.
>
> Also important to me is that the sub gives me the opportunity to
> work
> together with my son, we have always spent time together but this
> is the first
> opportunity that I have had to let him have a role in designing
> parts, presenting
> ideas, and working with the tools. It's also a role modeling thing,
> in that
> both of my kids get to see what it takes to tackle a big project."
>
> My point is that home build subs sitting in weeds, may not have
> ever made it
> to the waters edge, but they are not necessarily a dream that was
> not
> fulfilled. At worst they were a learning experience, but the
> important thing is
> they represent one more person who dared to follow a dream. And
> when I am in
> the company of dreamers who are also doers, I am in good company.
>
> So I pose this question to the group. Do other sub owners you may
> know find
> the time to use their subs regularly or does it tend to be for a
> short time
> after they are first constructed? And if they are not used or never
> completed
> then what was gained from having built the sub?
>
> Well, I've got to get back to work on
> submarineboat/front-yard-flower-box. ;)
>
> Best Regards,
> Doug Jackson
> _www.submarineboat.com_ (http://www.submarineboat.com)
>
>
> In a message dated 9/4/2004 8:08:31 AM Central Daylight Time,
> flydeep4u@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Some ones dream ,,,was,,
>
>
_http://www.boxelderfarm.com/pictures/Photos2002/Farm2002Jun23/Submarine.
JPG_
>
>
(http://www.boxelderfarm.com/pictures/Photos2002/Farm2002Jun23/Submarine.
JPG)
>
>
> DJACKSON99@aol.com wrote:
>
> DJB
>
> You need to consider the possibilities. It may not be your cup of
> tea but
> think about the military and security applications, or just the
> great fun.
> This design was also the first place winner of the 2003 concept
> boat design
> competition.
> _http://www.conceptboat.com/winnerprofiles.asp_
> (http://www.conceptboat.com/winnerprofiles.asp) sponsored by the
> _British Marine Federation_
> (http://www.britishmarine.co.uk/) , supported by the _Royal
> Institution of Naval
> Architects_ (http://www.rina.org.uk/) .
>
> The only thing I don't like about the design is the visibility and
> its not
> dry or semi dry. Personally I could kick myself for not having
> entered the
> competition.
>
> Best Regards,
> Doug Jackson
> _www.submarineboat.com_ (http://www.submarineboat.com/)
>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/2004 2:00:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
> flydeep4u@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Remember the only limitations are the human imagination and the
> human
> endurance under the water. And once again I'm reminded that some
> one some where
> is more than willing to buy what ever some one else builds no
> matter how
> stupid it is. DJB
>
> Thijs Struijs <thijs-struijs@planet.nl> wrote:
>
> Look at this:
> _http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=18678_
> (http://yachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=18678)
> They call it a submersible but i think they forgot the drainplugs.
> Nevertheless it is an up to date design, build in 2005 !!
> Greatings,
> Thijs Struijs
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