Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] UK psuber's / ROV - thread now moving offline... reluctantly

Julian,

thanks for letting me know, I look forward to continuing our discussion, but upon receiving your email i find i am disappointed yet again by this group.

>>> Steve, I have been asked to remove this discussion thread from this newsgroup, so I will
>>> Email you directly this weekend.      Julian

Oh i'm sorry, did i miss something? Asked to remove the thread.   ?

yes, i am slightly pissed off. this will be my only complaint e-mail on this subject, reply as you want but i am making a point to the group and i wont be following this up.  i do however, want to quote from the organisational charter:

"PSUBS.ORG was organized to promote and encourage the discussion, designing, building, certifiying, owning and use of personal submersibles.   We define a personal submersible as any submarine vehicle, manned or un-manned, dry, semi-dry, or wet that is owned and operated by individuals or small private groups and clubs. In general, a personal submersible is any underwater vehicle that can be owned by a member of the general public, housed in their own garage, and does not require a floatilla of support ships or large support staff to operate."

maybe i read this wrong but, an ROV IS 'A SUBMARINE VEHICLE', 'UNMANNED', 'SELF BUILT' and 'IS OWNED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC' and is thus relevant for discussion. it has been said, there can never be too much discussion.

Here's me, i am actually building something relevant, an underwater vehicle, as are many on this group but why shouldn't i be able to continue the thread on the news group? what is it that disagrees with the group.   Is it the ROV bit or us Brits or was my picture not professional enough for moki? maybe it is because i only have a budget of about $2000 and not the $20,000+ to build the full size version that i do want to build one day.

the thread has only been taken up by two people but so what! todays amateur ROV builder is maybe tomorrows sub pilot. it was starting to dwindle away anyway.   i've tried looking for other discussion forums on that subject but the project of a college team about 3 years ago wasn't open to me. closed membership.

i look forward to and do follow everything that gets posted and there have been times when the relevance to manned subs has gone off on a huge tangent, but look how we, sorry, look how you, deal with the interested, albeit sometimes naive, people that wander in, post a question, and get the piss taken out of them...for what? asking a question. and if you don't know the answer NO question is ever a stupid one.

i'm trying not to be bitter, ok we'll take it offline, but just consider it does just about amount to censorship....not too long ago the group was blasted for being too picky about things and the resulting flame war almost got out of hand. think on that next time it's really quiet and a college kid asks something odd.

point made,

regards, steve