I think it is probably because the tone of the conversation was becoming
harsh with the name calling, ROV's are ok as far as I know.
Does anyone know if I can bolt a stainless steel bolt to an aluminum
flange? Will the dissimilar metal situation cause excessive corrosion?
I want to use aluminum on one part because of the ease of machining but
I don't think aluminum bolts would be strong enough.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: steve <mailto:steve@kobol.worldonline.co.uk>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
<mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] UK psuber's / ROV - thread now moving
offline... reluctantly
Julian,
thanks for letting me know, I look forward to continuing our
discussion, but upon receiving your email i find i am disappointed
yet again by this group.
>>> Steve, I have been asked to remove this discussion thread from
this newsgroup, so I will
>>> Email you directly this weekend. Julian
Oh i'm sorry, did i miss something? Asked to remove the thread.
?
yes, i am slightly pissed off. this will be my only complaint
e-mail on this subject, reply as you want but i am making a point to
the group and i wont be following this up. i do however, want
to quote from the organisational charter:
"PSUBS.ORG was organized to promote and encourage the discussion,
designing, building, certifiying, owning and use of personal
submersibles. We define a personal submersible as any submarine
vehicle, manned or un-manned, dry, semi-dry, or wet that is owned
and operated by individuals or small private groups and clubs. In
general, a personal submersible is any underwater vehicle that can
be owned by a member of the general public, housed in their own
garage, and does not require a floatilla of support ships or large
support staff to operate."
maybe i read this wrong but, an ROV IS 'A SUBMARINE VEHICLE',
'UNMANNED', 'SELF BUILT' and 'IS OWNED BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC'
and is thus relevant for discussion. it has been said, there can
never be too much discussion.
Here's me, i am actually building something relevant, an underwater
vehicle, as are many on this group but why shouldn't i be able to
continue the thread on the news group? what is it that disagrees
with the group. Is it the ROV bit or us Brits or was my picture
not professional enough for moki? maybe it is because i only have a
budget of about $2000 and not the $20,000+ to build the full size
version that i do want to build one day.
the thread has only been taken up by two people but so what! todays
amateur ROV builder is maybe tomorrows sub pilot. it was starting
to dwindle away anyway. i've tried looking for other discussion
forums on that subject but the project of a college team about 3
years ago wasn't open to me. closed membership.
i look forward to and do follow everything that gets posted and
there have been times when the relevance to manned subs has gone off
on a huge tangent, but look how we, sorry, look how you, deal with
the interested, albeit sometimes naive, people that wander in, post
a question, and get the piss taken out of them...for what? asking a
question. and if you don't know the answer NO question is ever a
stupid one.
i'm trying not to be bitter, ok we'll take it offline, but just
consider it does just about amount to censorship....not too long ago
the group was blasted for being too picky about things and the
resulting flame war almost got out of hand. think on that next time
it's really quiet and a college kid asks something odd.
point made,
regards, steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of
Julian Ford
Sent: 28 August 2004 04:25
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] UK psuber's / ROV
Steve, I have been asked to remove this discussion thread from
this newsgroup, so I will Email you
directly this weekend.
Julian