Re: Reply to: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ABS - 3/17.1.1 - Normal Ballast System

[Steven Mills <cirtemoeg@juno.com>]

Hi Adam,

I hope you aren't suggesting that VBTs aren't worth discussion because
you do not want one in your submersible?  Anything that will give me an
insight toward the inner workings of a sub, whether it's a deep diver or
shallow wet sub,  can only enhance my understanding and bring me
closer to building my sub.

However, on another note, I do find a problem with the direction some
discussions take.  It is one thing to use one's knowledge and experience
to present a case supported by facts as an argument and another
to use one's knowledge and experience to diminish an "experienced"
member's
credibility, regardless whether the attack is mild and couched in
apologetics or
downright malicious. Common courtesy at the very least must prevail !

--Steve

[ on the other hand, if someone attacks the group, then let all hell
break loose : ))  ]




On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:32:29 -0600 "Adam Lawrence" <adteleka@in-tch.com>
writes:
> I personally do not have and do not want a VBT in my sub. They take 
> up
> valuable space in the sub and are nothing more then an extra bell 
> and
> whistle that some engineer thought up as sort of something to "one 
> up the
> competition" for some government money (my exaggerated opinion). 
> These tanks
> can be good for deeper diving subs where air does funny things, but 
> they are
> definitely not a necessity for anyone who is building  a psub,  they 
> are
> just on optional bell and whistle. I do however have variable 
> buoyancy
> tanks. I get a kick at of the lengths to which you have gone, Hugo, 
> to tell
> us what these deep subs have for buoyancy control systems, while 
> trying to
> rub Vance's nose in something, of which, you two are talking about 
> the same
> thing. I see the difference here as viewpoint, HBOI has to have an
> established vocabulary so as to minimize confusion behind its own 
> doors and
> they have written and rewritten their own dictionary in a way. But 
> wait, go
> talk to Newtco or all the other successful outfits and I bet the men 
> who did
> all the thinking at those places will explain ballast and buoyancy
> differently.
> My opinion here, but back to VBT's, don't need em and don't want em. 
> Some of
> the most amazing designs in this world turned out to look very 
> simple, but,
> they took the most brainpower to conceive.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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