Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court

[Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>]

Hi,

Dan sent me over 30Mbytes worth of pictures. I promised to have them up on the site this week.

Regards,
Ray

Steven Mills wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Speaking of "Persistence", since it's a few months away, I hope
> you're taking pics of that launch and posting on Moki!
> 
> --Steve
> 
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 20:10:34 -0500 "Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>
> writes:
> > Gail,
> >
> > I certainly don't want to get between you and Carl, especially when
> > fists and finger nails are swinging around, but!
> >
> > The way Fly Deep commented about a scuttle valve, by bowing out of
> > the list insinuating we're a bunch of fools for our "desire to flood
> > a submarine with freezing cold water," when clearly he has no idea
> > when, or why, a person would do that, he was asking for everything
> > Carl handed him.  Yes, I agree, it did sound condescending,and if
> > Carl didn't mean it that he should have.
> >
> > We have had many come and go from the list.  That's nothing new.
> > The ones that come in to learn and then contribute are a real asset.
> >  Some of them get tired and move on also.  Folks come and go but the
> > ones that benefit most are then ones that come in, sit themselves
> > down, and observe for a while.  We learn much more from listening
> > then talking about things we don't know.
> >
> > Having said that, let me welcome you to the group.  We probably have
> > a few other women here but I don't know.  It's nice to see you post
> > as one.  I know several women in engineering but none of them are
> > interested in subs.  I'm sure you will be able to contribute and be
> > an active part of the group if you want to.  Just relax, take it a
> > bit easier and enjoy the comradery.  You'll learn a lot and we
> > probably will too.  If it wasn't for the internet and this group, my
> > sub "Persistence" wouldn't be a few months away from launching.  It
> > would still be just a dream.
> >
> > Don't knock it until you tried it for a while!
> >
> > Above all, don't try reading between my lines.  There is nothing to
> > find in between them.
> > I mean what I say and say what I mean.
> >
> > Again,welcome aboard,
> > Dan H.
> >
> > Maybe this response should have been off the list.  If you think so,
> > I apologize.
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Gail Paleka
> >   To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >   Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:01 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
> >
> >
> >   Carl,
> >
> >   Now aren't you being just a little bit rude, presumptuous, and
> > condescending?  How dare you talk down to "Fly Deep" like that?  You
> > said you don't tolerate disrespect here; shouldn't you practice what
> > you preach?
> >
> >   I knew if I waited long enough you'd trip yourself up; and it
> > didn't take long at all.  Now, let's see if the group treats you
> > like they did me. I'll bet they wont.  I'll bet they'll call me a
> > bitch and tell me to shut the hell up again.  But they won't say
> > anything to you.
> >
> >   Come on, PSUBS!  Show us what you are really made of!  The whole
> > world is watching.
> >
> >   Best,
> >
> >   Gail
> >
> >
> >
> >   Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com> wrote:
> >     Fly deep, what about you sub idea? From what I see so far, you
> > aren't
> >     allthat aware of what to do when your sub is un-resurfacable.
> > IOW
> >     you're on the bottom and the only way out is through the
> > hatch...into
> >     the deep blue sea...and hopefully NOT into the tummy of a big
> > fish. How
> >     do you plan on doing that without a scuttle valve? Open the
> > hatch? do
> >     you even comprehend the pressure you're pushing against at a
> > mere 50'?
> >     20'? Way more than you can fight. Unless your hatch opens
> > inwards,
> >     which alone is unsafe because of the very pressures we're
> > talking about.
> >     So your hatch will have to open outwards, and you're gonna need
> > a
> >     scuttle valve. Such is life, dude.
> >     Carl
> >
> >
> >     Fly Deep wrote:
> >
> >     > Is there a way I can remove my self from this mailing list but
> > still
> >     >
> >     > go to the site and research pertinent information regarding !
> > the design
> >     >
> >     > and construction of submarines? I have no desire to flood a
> > submarine
> >     >
> >     > with freezing cold water and I seem to have accidentally
> > stumbled
> >     >
> >     > into the Yahoo personals without a picture to post.
> >     >
> >     >
> >
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