Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court

[Steven Mills <cirtemoeg@juno.com>]

Dan,

Speaking of "Persistence", since it's a few months away, I hope
you're taking pics of that launch and posting on Moki!

--Steve


On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 20:10:34 -0500 "Dan H." <jmachine@adelphia.net>
writes:
> Gail,
> 
> I certainly don't want to get between you and Carl, especially when 
> fists and finger nails are swinging around, but!
> 
> The way Fly Deep commented about a scuttle valve, by bowing out of 
> the list insinuating we're a bunch of fools for our "desire to flood 
> a submarine with freezing cold water," when clearly he has no idea 
> when, or why, a person would do that, he was asking for everything 
> Carl handed him.  Yes, I agree, it did sound condescending,and if 
> Carl didn't mean it that he should have.  
> 
> We have had many come and go from the list.  That's nothing new.  
> The ones that come in to learn and then contribute are a real asset. 
>  Some of them get tired and move on also.  Folks come and go but the 
> ones that benefit most are then ones that come in, sit themselves 
> down, and observe for a while.  We learn much more from listening 
> then talking about things we don't know.  
> 
> Having said that, let me welcome you to the group.  We probably have 
> a few other women here but I don't know.  It's nice to see you post 
> as one.  I know several women in engineering but none of them are 
> interested in subs.  I'm sure you will be able to contribute and be 
> an active part of the group if you want to.  Just relax, take it a 
> bit easier and enjoy the comradery.  You'll learn a lot and we 
> probably will too.  If it wasn't for the internet and this group, my 
> sub "Persistence" wouldn't be a few months away from launching.  It 
> would still be just a dream. 
> 
> Don't knock it until you tried it for a while!
> 
> Above all, don't try reading between my lines.  There is nothing to 
> find in between them.  
> I mean what I say and say what I mean.
> 
> Again,welcome aboard,
> Dan H. 
> 
> Maybe this response should have been off the list.  If you think so, 
> I apologize.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Gail Paleka 
>   To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:01 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Scuttle valves & Divorce Court
> 
> 
>   Carl, 
> 
>   Now aren't you being just a little bit rude, presumptuous, and 
> condescending?  How dare you talk down to "Fly Deep" like that?  You 
> said you don't tolerate disrespect here; shouldn't you practice what 
> you preach?
> 
>   I knew if I waited long enough you'd trip yourself up; and it 
> didn't take long at all.  Now, let's see if the group treats you 
> like they did me. I'll bet they wont.  I'll bet they'll call me a 
> bitch and tell me to shut the hell up again.  But they won't say 
> anything to you.
> 
>   Come on, PSUBS!  Show us what you are really made of!  The whole 
> world is watching.
> 
>   Best, 
> 
>   Gail
> 
> 
> 
>   Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com> wrote:
>     Fly deep, what about you sub idea? From what I see so far, you 
> aren't 
>     allthat aware of what to do when your sub is un-resurfacable. 
> IOW 
>     you're on the bottom and the only way out is through the 
> hatch...into 
>     the deep blue sea...and hopefully NOT into the tummy of a big 
> fish. How 
>     do you plan on doing that without a scuttle valve? Open the 
> hatch? do 
>     you even comprehend the pressure you're pushing against at a 
> mere 50'? 
>     20'? Way more than you can fight. Unless your hatch opens 
> inwards, 
>     which alone is unsafe because of the very pressures we're 
> talking about. 
>     So your hatch will have to open outwards, and you're gonna need 
> a 
>     scuttle valve. Such is life, dude.
>     Carl
> 
> 
>     Fly Deep wrote:
> 
>     > Is there a way I can remove my self from this mailing list but 
> still 
>     > 
>     > go to the site and research pertinent information regarding ! 
> the design 
>     > 
>     > and construction of submarines? I have no desire to flood a 
> submarine 
>     > 
>     > with freezing cold water and I seem to have accidentally 
> stumbled 
>     > 
>     > into the Yahoo personals without a picture to post. 
>     > 
>     > 
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> 
> 
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