Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]:RE: PSUB RipOff!!

[david cutajar <davecutajar@djcengineering.com>]

Yup, that's right- PSUB Ripoff!! Who would have
thought that??Maybe if I purchased from Ebay, but from
PSUB?????

I recently purchased the K250 pressure hull plan from
the online store on the Psub.org website.

This one page plan is touted as:

 " an excellent resource as a starting point for those
who want to construct their own submersible. ".

I Paid by PayPal - Payment  To  Jonathan Wallace on
Jan. 24, 2004;

I received the package today Feb. 23, 2004.

I purchased the plan, thinking it would be a good
reference source (as they claimed).

As you may suspect, I am very disapointed in the
print. It is terrible, and offers NO value. 

The BOM (Bill Of Material) only references Part
numbers - i.e. there is no information on anything
that is of value: for example if you were curious as
to what size rings (hull frame)were used - or the
rings thickness etc., all you will realize is that it
is detail #3 part number K250-007 - Completely
Useless.

Curious about the diameter of the forward viewport?
too bad - all it says is part number K250-020.

After a much anticipated wait of one month I cannot
believe how bad I got ripped off, and the worst part
is I waited a month.

Obtaining this Item from PSUB made me feel secure in
my purchase. The description in PSUB is not accurate.

This item is BENEATH this fine web site and I implore
you to REMOVE this item from the online store as it is
a complete rip-off.

I am the owner of an engineering firm (just north of
Detoit, MI). We design and manufacture industrial
equipment from clean room enviroments to foundry
equipment. We often get jobs that are too complex or
technical for other companies and we have designed
laser welders,camera & optics, specialty machines for
fuel cell processes, robotic cells of all sorts,
secondary plastics equipment, entire plant lines, Mig,
tig, laser cells, non- destruct inspection equip,
material handling etc., etc., etc. We do small tools
such as operator assisted tools for assembly plants,
to complete manufacturing lines & engineering ($110M).
Many of these industries require a large amount of
R&D. 

I have been doing alot of R&D, for the design I am
working on for (2) one person subs, that I plan to
build and certify together. The subs can be operated
in a "connected" mode, or detached, operating both
together in a "buddy-system" fashion, like SCUBA for
safety.

I started out as a machinist in High School, where I
took 1st in the state every year; I was a project
leader (for a company)when I was still in High School;
I became a fixture builder, then Model Maker (that
industry went out), CNC operator, CAD operator,
designer, Special Machines & Gages, BIW process and
tooling.

I don't do the hands on as much anymore - I havn't
been on Catia or UG for years, but I can find my way
around Mech-Desktop though.

I'm not bragging or preaching to this group - I know
there is a ton of knowledge and talent in this group.
I just wanted to let you know that I am not a complete
idiot, and that I have been around a shop, wrenches,
torches and prints for my entire life, and that this
print sucked (hard).

If anyone wants a copy, I will scan it (into several
(4?) sections) and give them to you free; but please
do not purchase this as you will be disapointed.

Sorry for the negative email.

Sincerely,

David Cutajar
DJC Engineering

davecutajar@yahoo.com