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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Feet wet?
And Linux-heads, of which there is a rapidly
increasing
number. I would very much appreciate PDF. About the
only other format that would be nearly as good would
be
HTML.
Warren.
--- Ian Wright <ianwrong@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Doug, et al,
>
> If someone has the full Adobe Acrobat package, then
> scanning the book into
> .pdf format is another suggestion. Some advantages
> include indexing, the
> ability to run keyword searches, and cross-platform
> compatibility for any
> Mac heads out there.
>
> Using graphics formats to capture the book material
> could result in some
> hairy file sizes - especially using bitmaps - if
> sufficient resolution is
> used to capture all of the book's pictures, and to
> my knowledge they're not
> searchable, either.
>
> Ian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Mills" <cirtemoeg@juno.com>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Feet wet?
>
>
> > Doug,
> >
> > I thought there was a scanning project in
> progress?
> >
> > http://www.busbys.hpg.ig.com.br/busbys/toc.htm
> >
> > The progress has slowed a bit. I assumed he was
> pooped-out from
> > all that scanning or his scanner gave up the
> ghost. [ that's quite a task
> > }
> >
> > Perhaps we could all chip in our time and help out
> a bit. I could scan a
> > few chapters. For the sake of consistency set a
> standard for scanning
> > resolution and type of file [ ie. jpeg, bmp, tif,
> or gif...etc. ]
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:14:29 EDT
> SeaLordOne@aol.com writes:
> > > Peter & Ian,
> > >
> > > I used to provide that photocopy service to the
> PSUBs community.
> > > The book is
> > > so huge (764 pages) that I had to charge $75.00
> for the photocopies,
> > > just to
> > > break even. Then a couple of heavy hitters in
> the group accused me
> > > of
> > > profiting from copyrighted material. I knew
> they were incorrect,
> > > but they were heavy
> > > hitters and I was a little nobody, so I figured
> I had better not
> > > argue. I
> > > said I would be a good sport and I contacted the
> Navy to clarify the
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > The Navy was surprised by my question. One, the
> book is published
> > > by the
> > > Navy. Two, it has no copyright stamp. Three,
> it was printed by the
> > > United
> > > States Printing Office. Why in the world would
> I think it was
> > > copyrighted? It
> > > turns out that the Navy used to refer people to
> a dive shop in
> > > Maryland, which
> > > sold photocopies (for a profit...totally legal).
> They were
> > > disappointed when
> > > the dive shop discontinued the business. But
> the Navy did turn me
> > > on to a lead,
> > > which led in time to them supplying me with the
> last 200 copies of
> > > Manned
> > > Submersibles in the Navy inventory. I have
> distributed those to
> > > PSUBers all over
> > > the world, but now they are all gone.
> > >
> > > While I was handing out those 200 books, at
> least a dozen people
> > > promised me
> > > they would either build a website, or press a
> CD, or take up the
> > > photocopy
> > > mission. So I figured that once I had
> distributed the 200 books, I
> > > could retire
> > > from the Busby Book Business. The torch would
> pass on to someone
> > > else. I am
> > > getting the bad feeling that none of those folks
> is currently in a
> > > position to
> > > continue providing Busby books to the PSUBS
> community. If you are,
> > > please
> > > step forward. If you are not, I am willing go
> back into the
> > > photocopy business.
> > > I see Busby as the "bible" every PSUBber should
> have access to, if
> > > they want
> > > it. I want to make myself useful to the
> community, in gratitude of
> > > all I
> > > learn from the community. I was hoping to move
> onto other projects,
> > > but if no
> > > one else is going to do it, I will contine to be
> the go-to guy for
> > > Busby Books.
> > > If someone could help me produce it in CD form,
> that would make it a
> > > lot
> > > cheaper.
> > >
> > > One last comment on the public domain status of
> Busby. Because of
> > > my job
> > > with the Federal Aviation Administration, I have
> access to copyright
> > > experts that
> > > may not be available to everyone in the PSUBs
> community. I have
> > > also spoken
> > > personally and directly to quite a few Navy
> personnel about this
> > > issue (the
> > > Navy has reorganized a few times since Busby was
> published, so I had
> > > to follow
> > > the trail). Public Domain means just what it
> says. Mr. Busby never
> > > had rights
> > > to that book, never. He did not sell the rights
> to the Navy...he
> > > never had
> > > them. This was a "work for hire". He agreed
> even before he wrote
> > > it that it
> > > would belong to the government and people of the
> United States.
> > > That is how
> > > the system works. You can photocopy it and sell
> it for a huge
> > > profit if you
> > > want to...that is perfectly legal. You have as
> much right to that
> > > book as you do
> > > to the Holy Bible or the complete works of
> Shakespeare. The folks
> > > who
> > > publish those works have no more rights to them
> than you do.
> > >
> > > The governments of the world had the wisdom to
> make sure that, at
> > > some point
> > > in time, almost every non-classified written
> word will end up in the
> > > public
> > > domain. Copyright protection is a temporary
> (often long but never
> > > permanent)
> > > "ownership" the government awards to some
> authors and their
> > > descendents to
> > > control/make a profit from, their work for a
> limited time. But in
> > > time almost all
> > > of it ends up the property of the world's
> citizens. The wisdom of
> > > the
> > > founding fathers of western civilization, I
> suppose.
> > >
> > > I am hoping that my ability to provide 200
> virgin Busby Books to the
>
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