Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Feet wet?

["Ian Wright" <ianwrong@earthlink.net>]

Doug, et al,

If someone has the full Adobe Acrobat package, then scanning the book into
.pdf format is another suggestion.  Some advantages include indexing, the
ability to run keyword searches, and cross-platform compatibility for any
Mac heads out there.

Using graphics formats to capture the book material could result in some
hairy file sizes - especially using bitmaps - if sufficient resolution is
used to capture all of the book's pictures, and to my knowledge they're not
searchable, either.

Ian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Mills" <cirtemoeg@juno.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Feet wet?


> Doug,
>
> I thought there was a scanning project in progress?
>
> http://www.busbys.hpg.ig.com.br/busbys/toc.htm
>
> The progress has slowed a bit. I assumed he was pooped-out from
> all that scanning or his scanner gave up the ghost. [ that's quite a task
> }
>
> Perhaps we could all chip in our time and help out a bit. I could scan a
> few chapters. For the sake of consistency set a standard for scanning
> resolution and type of file [ ie. jpeg, bmp, tif, or gif...etc. ]
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:14:29 EDT SeaLordOne@aol.com writes:
> > Peter & Ian,
> >
> > I used to provide that photocopy service to the PSUBs community.
> > The book is
> > so huge (764 pages) that I had to charge $75.00 for the photocopies,
> > just to
> > break even.  Then a couple of heavy hitters in the group accused me
> > of
> > profiting from copyrighted material.  I knew they were incorrect,
> > but they were heavy
> > hitters and I was a little nobody, so I figured I had better not
> > argue.  I
> > said I would be a good sport and I contacted the Navy to clarify the
> > issue.
> >
> > The Navy was surprised by my question.  One, the book is published
> > by the
> > Navy.  Two, it has no copyright stamp.  Three, it was printed by the
> > United
> > States Printing Office.  Why in the world would I think it was
> > copyrighted?  It
> > turns out that the Navy used to refer people to a dive shop in
> > Maryland, which
> > sold photocopies (for a profit...totally legal).  They were
> > disappointed when
> > the dive shop discontinued the business.  But the Navy did turn me
> > on to a lead,
> > which led in time to them supplying me with the last 200 copies of
> > Manned
> > Submersibles in the Navy inventory.  I have distributed those to
> > PSUBers all over
> > the world, but now they are all gone.
> >
> > While I was handing out those 200 books, at least a dozen people
> > promised me
> > they would either build a website, or press a CD, or take up the
> > photocopy
> > mission.  So I figured that once I had distributed the 200 books, I
> > could retire
> > from the Busby Book Business.  The torch would pass on to someone
> > else.  I am
> > getting the bad feeling that none of those folks is currently in a
> > position to
> > continue providing Busby books to the PSUBS community.  If you are,
> > please
> > step forward.  If you are not, I am willing go back into the
> > photocopy business.
> >  I see Busby as the "bible" every PSUBber should have access to, if
> > they want
> > it.  I want to make myself useful to the community, in gratitude of
> > all I
> > learn from the community.  I was hoping to move onto other projects,
> > but if no
> > one else is going to do it, I will contine to be the go-to guy for
> > Busby Books.
> > If someone could help me produce it in CD form, that would make it a
> > lot
> > cheaper.
> >
> > One last comment on the public domain status of Busby.  Because of
> > my job
> > with the Federal Aviation Administration, I have access to copyright
> > experts that
> > may not be available to everyone in the PSUBs community.  I have
> > also spoken
> > personally and directly to quite a few Navy personnel about this
> > issue (the
> > Navy has reorganized a few times since Busby was published, so I had
> > to follow
> > the trail).  Public Domain means just what it says.  Mr. Busby never
> > had rights
> > to that book, never.  He did not sell the rights to the Navy...he
> > never had
> > them.  This was a "work for hire".  He agreed even before he wrote
> > it that it
> > would belong to the government and people of the United States.
> > That is how
> > the system works.  You can photocopy it and sell it for a huge
> > profit if you
> > want to...that is perfectly legal.  You have as much right to that
> > book as you do
> > to the Holy Bible or the complete works of Shakespeare.  The folks
> > who
> > publish those works have no more rights to them than you do.
> >
> > The governments of the world had the wisdom to make sure that, at
> > some point
> > in time, almost every non-classified written word will end up in the
> > public
> > domain.  Copyright protection is a temporary (often long but never
> > permanent)
> > "ownership" the government awards to some authors and their
> > descendents to
> > control/make a profit from, their work for a limited time.  But in
> > time almost all
> > of it ends up the property of the world's citizens.  The wisdom of
> > the
> > founding fathers of western civilization, I suppose.
> >
> > I am hoping that my ability to provide 200 virgin Busby Books to the
> > PSUBs
> > commuity over the last two years will give me some credibility on
> > this copyright
> > issue with the Busby Books.  I would really like to "close the book"
> > on that
> > question.
> >
> > Peter, please contact me off-line and we can talk about getting you
> > a Busby,
> > in some format.  If anyone else out there wants to become the new
> > go-to guy
> > for Busby books, please speak up.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug Farrow
>