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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hull failure calculation sheet




      However Pipeline Grade pipe is certified and pressure tested (with
internal pressure) at the mill so the longitudal welds are confirmed leak
free.  There are still inclusions but they are few and far between.  We
usually only find inclusions and mill defects in pipelines not in
North/South America or Europe.  If you get a mill cert with your pipe, it
would be OK.  To have the piece of pipe you select further inspected would
be reasonably cheap if you so desired, though I would rely on a pressure
test as it would be free.




Thanks,

J. Barlow CET
Sr. Mechanical Designer
BJ Pipeline Inspection

Ph  (403) 531-5412
Fax (403) 236-8740
Cell (403) 807-2195


                                                                                                                                                
                      Warren Greenway                                                                                                           
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No they are not. Sewer pipe is made of the lowest
grade
steel available. It will often have inclusions and
inconsistent thickness as well.

Warren.

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> A major issue in Marine quality materials is
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>
> dinosnider666@spacemail.com wrote:
> > Do you get an certificates, or guarantees with
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> > I.e., that it's made from such'n'such quality
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