Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Speaking of starting flame wars ...

["Steven Mills" <barycenter@earthlink.net>]

Much of what we learn about ourselves come from the
archaeological excavations of *burial* sites and in excavating
sunken ships.
Had not our ancestors been steeped in ritual, religion, pomp,
and superstition in funereal practice we wouldn't have the
historical and cultural insights.

You might think me eccentric and frivolous for this topic,
but think about it.  Don't think in terms of "now", but
centuries or a millenia from now.  What if instead of a thin metal tube
for a vessel, you put a little thought and imagination to this. You
build something to last. In this vessel you put significant artifacts
that tell others who you were and the times you lived in.  How about
placing a "Busby", transcripts from a pSubs discussion, a model
and/or the plans for a K350,  all incased in a protective covering?
How about a roster of the pSubs members especially names and
pictures and a short bio of those in the group who built subs?
Then you're laid to rest somewhere in the deep.  Who knows, a
thousand years from now your coffin [ if it survives the ravages of time ]
might be the most significant archaeological discovery of that future time?
The "Iceman" had no idea how significant his frozen remains
were to become for archaeologists and anthropologists. And he didn't
plan his funeral.
What would you place in your pSub shaped vessel? How would you
be dressed? A  submariner's period outfit?
[ that will throw the archaeologists off ]
Can you imagine "Carl" being an exhibit in some future museum?
[ Make sure you're wearing clean underwear ....Jeez, what if
the only thing that survived was your underwear  :-o  ] 

Oh well...
--Steve


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Speaking of starting flame wars ...


> I have no idea.  
> 
> Actually, I was thinking of a thin metal tube for a burial container. 
> Put the corpse inside and drop that baby off the edge.  I would say that
> the thin metal would collapse because of depth and allow the contents to
> be "absorbed" into the ocean.
> Carl
> 
> 
> Steven Mills wrote:
> > 
> > Interesting...how about outside the 200 mile territorial
> > limit?
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Speaking of starting flame wars ...
> > 
> > > Hmmmm.  What are the legalities of a burial at sea?  I know the mafia
> > > had no problem doing it, but what about us regular guys?
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven Mills wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >From: Pierre Poulin <pipo305@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > You guys are so stange...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, you want strange. Here's a question.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know or have heard of a person being buried
> > > > in a submersible or sub shaped coffin [ at sea or in the ground].
> > > > after their demise?
> > > >
> > > > [ and note, I am not counting the brave souls who lost their lives
> > > > at sea in a sub..."iron coffins"..., regardless of nationality and
> > > > regardless of times of war or peace ].
> > > >
> > > > I ask this because last year I had to make funereal arrangements
> > > > for a close relative and among the arrangements was following
> > > > instructions as to the characteristics of the burial.  Also, in conferring
> > > > with a close relative, I was shocked to find out that I had funereal
> > > > insurance coverage on me since I was 16.  So, I asked myself the
> > > > macabre question, "How do I want to be buried?" Quietly or with
> > > > some "character" and "fanfare"?  How about a facsimle of Lake's
> > > > Argonaut Jr.?  Or the Nautilus?
> > > > Crush depth would be inconsequentual. It could be a wetsub?
> > > >
> > > > It's not unheard of for people to be buried with a theme or characteristic
> > > > in mind.  The pyramids are an example.  I believe or it's rumored that
> > > > Liberace was buried in a piano shaped coffin.  Sir Richard Burton
> > > > [ the explorer, not the actor ] and his wife are entombed in a pyramid
> > > > structure. I have heard of persons buried in their favorite car.
> > > >
> > > > So how about it guys?  Too strange and bizarre for commentary?
> > > > The grim reaper has everyone's name carved on that scythe's shaft!
> > > >
> > > > If I ever build a pSub, it just could be a coffin shaped as one...a last
> > > > testament from a "Submadman".
> > > >
> > > > --Steve
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Indeed, desire is the seed of thought, the prime force that activates
> > > the mechanism of the mind." -- Kama Sutra
> 
> -- 
> "Indeed, desire is the seed of thought, the prime force that activates
> the mechanism of the mind." -- Kama Sutra