Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OSS Pressure hull basic layout.

[Ian Roxborough <irox@ix.netcom.com>]

They are also a lot of game controllers that are serial(RS232), some
of which might be suitable.  There is also the option of tearing it
open and converting it to serial or even wiring it in parallel.  Also
you could use a USB to serial converter.

There are also some nice joysticks some people might find better, so
as far as the controller goes we may want to leave the option open so
people could program the device of there choice.  We could choose if
we want USB or Serial or both or whatever.  My vote would go towards
serial since they are more chips that come with serial.

I would personally prefer a joy stick type device (or two) mounted some
where solid, over hand held controls.

Ian.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:40:10 -0500
"Andy Jensen" <drewacard@charter.net> wrote:

> Warren 
> In looking around...
> it would possible to interface a Playstation or PS1 
> controller with a midrange pic either in digital or analog 
> with full functionality.
> 
> The USB interface would require a bit more in the range of 
> parts ie A few PIC's an Phllips ISP1160 or ISP1161A1 Nvram 
>  
> but in theroy it could talk to any USB1.1 device that the 
> nvram was programed to identify. though this might be a 
> lot of futzing.  
> 
> Andy
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:20:20 -0800 (PST)
>   John Rogers <djohnndjinn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >I have seen quite a few options for USB interfaces (slave 
> >devices at least) pop up over the past year.  I have 
> >spoken before of implementing a CAN network like a modern 
> >car would use.  Due to the huge amount of work that has 
> >already been done for cars, the interfaces for this 
> >protocol can be purchased for dirt cheap.  Connect this 
> >to a cheap microcontroller with non-volatile memory and 
> >boom.  instant real-time distributed network.  Reliable, 
> >available, scalable.
> >Again, is is probably way too early to be worrying about 
> >electrical systems..
> >--John
> >  Warrend Greenway <dub@linuxmail.org> wrote:If you 
> >figure out how to economically interface one of those 
> >controllers
> >to a microcontroller, then you have my full attention. 
> >The real problem
> >with them is that they all use proprietary 
> >connectors...Except the USB
> >flavors, and the USB interface ICs usually take a lot of 
> >baby-sitting...
> >But I'm sure listening...An older style joystick would be 
> >easier in that
> >you can use a basic ADC to get the position.
> >
> >Warren.
> >
> >Warren.
> >
> >> I also think it looks Neat.
> >> 
> >> Question is hull steel worked still going for around 
> >> $.57/lb or $1.25/kg and was that for A517?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What about using a computer/ps2/x-box type controller?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:02:21 +0800
> >> "Warrend Greenway" wrote:
> >> >OK. You have some really interesting ideas here. I 
> >> >personally 
> >> >would like to see two hatches, possibly of raised 
> >>domes, 
> >> >or 
> >> >the cylinders. I thought your seating idea was great! I 
> >> >also
> >> >like the "foot dome", that is an interesting concept, 
> >> >because
> >> >it minimizes the volume. Also, putting the instruments 
> >> >and 
> >> >controls on rails so that they roll out of the way 
> >>sounds 
> >> >like
> >> >a good idea, then they wouldn't be in the way when you 
> >> >are 
> >> >climbing in. Did you get a chance to look at the
> >> >pictures of my canted idea? 
> >> >
> >> >Warren. 
> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >> hi,
> >> >> 
> >> >> I did a little fiddling around with the pressure hull 
> >> >>layout.
> >> >> Using a foot well, it seem that we could design a 
> >>hull 
> >> >>with
> >> >> around a 2 cubic meter displacement (~2000kg or 
> >> >>~4400lbs).
> >> >> 
> >> >> I'm interested in what people, in particular about 
> >>the
> >> >> dimentions with regard to confort.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Ian.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/subfiles.html
> >> >> 
> >>http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/20030123.175639/hull-v1.jpg
> >> >> 
> >> >> Approximate displacement: 2 cubic meters (~2000kg or 
> >> >>4400lbs)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Hatch top is 2.5 feet from the water line, per ABS 
> >>spec.
> >> >> 
> >> >> One dome viewport, one cylinder style veiwport.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Only rear seating position has a hatch, the dome 
> >>doesn't 
> >> >>not open.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Seats would probably be made of cloth and hung 
> >>"hammock 
> >> >>style"
> >> >> so they be easily moved out of the way making it easy 
> >>to 
> >> >>access
> >> >> the front seating position.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Front seating position is for the viewer/guest, the 
> >>rear 
> >> >>position
> >> >> is for the pilot, the idea is the pilot sitting 
> >>slightly 
> >> >>higher
> >> >> to see more.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Controls would been to fold away so they do not 
> >>inhibit 
> >> >>passage
> >> >> to the front position.
> >> >> 
> >> >
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