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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OSS, interpersonal communication
Here's a thought- got one of those carbon fibre poles they use for
bicycle flags. A 2 meter (6'7") pole with a diver's flag on it. Would
break the surface when the sub is near it and most anyone in a boat
would know what the divers flag means.
Carl
Doc wrote:
>
> Even without sonar or hydrophones I could usually hear surface motor traffic from quite a way out,
> and if you have upward visibility, unless you're diving on a dark moonless night, surface silhouettes
> can be seen from a safe depth even in rather murky water. But them damn sailboats can sure sneak up on ya quick.
>
> We use support boats during testing and training, especially in the lakes here, but then, it's much better to be independent
> once equipment and pilot have reached a comfort level together. It can be tough to round up a support crew to sit out
> in a boat and wait for you to finnish having fun below the waves while they're fighting frostbite topside. You can usually
> only get away with that once, then start looking for new suckers,,,, I mean crew.
>
> Doc
>
> Coalbunny wrote:
>
> > That's cool. What about those that don't have a surface support vessel?
> > Carl
> >
> > Ray Keefer wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually that is what your surface support vessel does for you. Ward off
> > > evil high speed boats and laden tankers.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:17:02 -0700
> > > > From: Coalbunny <coalbunny@vcn.com>
> > > > X-Accept-Language: en
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OSS, interpersonal communication
> > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > >
> > > > Dale, that's what periscopes are for. And because of the risk
> > > > potential, there is liable to be legislation passed restricting psubs at
> > > > some point in time. Not if, when. So this is something that must be
> > > > covered well.
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "Dale A. Raby" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well... I think this is the part where an old fart like myself needs
> > > > > to step in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre, the design process for a project like this is likely to take
> > > > > months and even years... not days. If you are a design engineer, you
> > > > > know this, and if you are not, you know it now. A few days to
> > > > > coordinate the standards is nothing much in the grand scheme of
> > > > > things. We are a large group. Granted, we have to follow the leader,
> > > > > but he needs feedback in order to make his decisions... and he is
> > > > > young as well, so I am sure he wants to move along as much as you do.
> > > > > Be patient, lad, we'll get there!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very interested to see what this group puts together and will be
> > > > > proud to be able to say that I had even a small part in it, even
> > > > > though I am unlikely to ever bolt the first hull plate on my own
> > > > > submersible.
> > > > >
> > > > > You all seem to get along much better than any group I have ever seen
> > > > > before. As near as I can tell it is because you are not soldiers,
> > > > > artists, programmers, and women. Groups in these classifications
> > > > > never seem to be able to get along for any length of time... go ahead
> > > > > call me a sexist, I don't care, but most women would agree with the
> > > > > statement.
> > > > >
> > > > > This issue aside, we are still a very diverse group, so I think
> > > > > perhaps I should point out a few things. First off, not everyone here
> > > > > speaks English as their first language. A statement such as Pierre
> > > > > made might just possibly be construed as inflamatory, though most
> > > > > likely it was not intended as such. He's just young and impatient...
> > > > > and I must add that his English is better than my Francais. We also
> > > > > have different attitudes. Toleration and thick skin is a must in a
> > > > > project such as this one. Intollerance will kill the project more
> > > > > certainly than any technological difficulty. Be flexible, like Gumby.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, for you guys who might need some help with English language
> > > > > skills... a phrase or word you don't understand... or getting around
> > > > > American slang or attitudes... ask me and I will give it a shot. My
> > > > > household speaks a mixture of English, German, and Italian... we can
> > > > > also do French and Spanish if necessary. Do it off the list if you
> > > > > want.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, enough from the landlubber this morning. There are some
> > > > > interesting things developing... the sharkskin concept, the window
> > > > > issue, the modular concept.... keep at it! Oh, yeah... a while back
> > > > > someone discussed fish finders as active sonar devices... hopefully
> > > > > the OSS would have that as well. There is some pretty murky water
> > > > > around here.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how do PSUBs avoid getting run down while surfacing? It seems to
> > > > > me that a large freighter could not avoid a small sub surfacing in its
> > > > > path, nor could a fast moving small surface craft.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 06:19, Pierre Poulin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Man, that process is gonna take forever. Please let a leader take a
> > > decision
> > > > > > and let the groupe move on! We could debate that simple issue for days...
> > > (I
> > > > > > think that's what we've done already)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm looking forward to be in the design process! In the meat of the
> > > projet!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale A. Raby
> > > > > Editor/Publisher
> > > > > The Green Bay Web
> > > > > http://www.thegreenbayweb.com
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "You delight not in a city's seven or seventy wonders, but in an answer
> > > > it gives to a question of yours, or the question it asks you, forcing
> > > > you to answer, like Thebes through the mouth of the Sphinx." -- Kublai
> > > > Khan
> >
> > --
> > "You delight not in a city's seven or seventy wonders, but in an answer
> > it gives to a question of yours, or the question it asks you, forcing
> > you to answer, like Thebes through the mouth of the Sphinx." -- Kublai
> > Khan
--
"You delight not in a city's seven or seventy wonders, but in an answer
it gives to a question of yours, or the question it asks you, forcing
you to answer, like Thebes through the mouth of the Sphinx." -- Kublai
Khan